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wildjim
09-18-2009, 05:04 AM
Sanrenmu Knives. . .

G. Scott H.
09-18-2009, 04:57 PM
I dig the look of a few of their lockbacks, but these really grabbed me: http://www.srmknives.com/ArticleShow.asp?ArticleID=857 Look like slipjoints, but I'm not totally sure. Any experience with these?

Noss
09-18-2009, 11:32 PM
Excellent. !!! I still plan on ordering some these and giving them a try. Thanks for the reminder. :D

culpeper
09-19-2009, 12:07 AM
They really are good knives.

wildjim
09-19-2009, 07:39 AM
I dig the look of a few of their lockbacks, but these really grabbed me: http://www.srmknives.com/ArticleShow.asp?ArticleID=857 Look like slipjoints, but I'm not totally sure. Any experience with these?

Yeah I believe Sanrenmu makes a slip joint knife or two. Now that I am acquiring some(?) knowledge of knives or at least more knives to compare I still marvel at the quality of Sanrenmu knives as all the ones I have are tight and smooth as butter; especially the 710 model. If you do not have a Sanrenmu 710 then you are surely missing a great deal on a knife.

culpeper
09-19-2009, 01:51 PM
What I have. The 611 (bottom) is actually half the size as the top.

http://www.srmknives.com/UploadFiles/2008613215939567.jpg

http://www.srmknives.com/UploadFiles/200861321590221.jpg

G. Scott H.
09-20-2009, 06:47 PM
Those are very close to the Buck Nobleman, which is a design I really like. I might try one out myself. :rockon:

G. Scott H.
09-21-2009, 05:20 PM
I can't find those slipjoint looking ones anywhere, but I definitely want to try out a few of their others that are more commonly available. So far, the 710, 723, and 704 appeal to me the most. For about $30 shipped for the trio, I think I'll give them a go. :rockon:

wildjim
09-21-2009, 05:38 PM
I can't find those slipjoint looking ones anywhere, but I definitely want to try out a few of their others that are more commonly available. So far, the 710, 723, and 704 appeal to me the most. For about $30 shipped for the trio, I think I'll give them a go. :rockon:

I think you'll like them and if your'e honest with yourself you'll wonder why you ever spent anymore for a pocket knife ; )

G. Scott H.
09-21-2009, 06:41 PM
After reading your opinion and those of many people at both BFC and Brit Blades, it sounds like it'd be hard to go wrong with these. :rockon:

BTW, I know there's been a lot of talk about how most of them are rip-offs of other company's designs, but I don't have a problem with that unless someone's trying to sell a true counterfeit item that's EXACTLY the same as the original even down to fake markings. Most of the SRM knives do resemble other brands, but they are not marked with fake branding and are slightly different from the originals if you look closely at them.

wildjim
09-21-2009, 10:59 PM
After reading your opinion and those of many people at both BFC and Brit Blades, it sounds like it'd be hard to go wrong with these. :rockon:

BTW, I know there's been a lot of talk about how most of them are rip-offs of other company's designs, but I don't have a problem with that unless someone's trying to sell a true counterfeit item that's EXACTLY the same as the original even down to fake markings. Most of the SRM knives do resemble other brands, but they are not marked with fake branding and are slightly different from the originals if you look closely at them.

Fact is if they could sue they would sue but they can't so its legal.

Its a common design.

What of the Stockman and the Trapper design, everybody makes one who wants to make one and everybody's alright.

How many folding hunter knives are there and Buck is alright. As the Buck folding hunter is priced fair.

How many make and sell a fixed blade drop point hunter?

Chris Reeve and the fan boys need to face reality, there is nothing magical or unique about the sebenza.

I believe the sebenza is over rated and over priced and Chris Reeve is greedy and his fan boys need to justify to themselves a $400 expenditure.

culpeper
09-21-2009, 11:23 PM
The invisible hand of supply and demand is healthy, "holding that the greatest benefit to a society is brought about by individuals acting freely in a competitive marketplace in the pursuit of their own self-interest." A capitalist company that merely complains about its competition is not acting in its own best interest. It is wasting time while the early bird gets the worm. And the worm is turning for this Chinese company. No different than people complain about Noss. Well, that is just tough shit for them. Noss is also part of the invisible hand of supply and demand. So, is this forum. And so on.

kurodrago
09-21-2009, 11:34 PM
They look good to me:thumb: I don't give shit who copy who:cool:
I like it I buy it!!:rockon::D

G. Scott H.
09-22-2009, 06:46 PM
Like I said, counterfeiting is wrong, plain and simple. Let's take SRM's 710 model for example. None of the three versions I've seen are screw-for-screw copies of the Sebenza, nor are they marked with any CRK logos, etc. Plus, let's face it, a person who is in the market for a Sebenza is not going to be satisfied with a $10 Chinese copy, no matter how nice it may be. They want the real thing. So, it's not like SRM Knives is cutting into CR's bottom line. The SRM knives appeal to people who like the basic design but can't afford or don't want to spend the cahs for a real Sebenza. THey just want a decent quality knife in that style for a low price. Now, if SRM made their 710s identical in every detail to a Sebenza and/or added fake CRK markings and tried to hoodwink people into thinking they were buying the real deal, that would piss me off, but such is not the case. End of story (at least for me).

culpeper
09-22-2009, 07:55 PM
See my interview with the owner of Taylor Brands on the forum. I ask him what type of customers does the company attract. Certain people think even Schrade is a puppet company. That couldn't be further from the truth. The USA owners sold all the property, including the name, to Taylor Brands LLC. Taylor Brands is Schrade. And that is a fact. Even Buck USA is starting to follow the Taylor Brands business model. Why? Because of the invisible hand of supply and demand. Who uses Buck knives?

nobbs70
09-23-2009, 09:39 PM
(my first post! cool!:))

Some of my sanrenmus:

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3496/70318353.jpg

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3530/71065834.jpg

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/1825/57084834.jpg


Two or three years ago, they cost me between 2 and 6 € a piece (about 3 and 9 $), distributor price, and sold them for 4-12 € in my shop (sadly, had to close)

Usually I didn´t charge so much benefit, but having seen the quality, I was most assured the deal was good for both parts...

Some gossip:

The steel is 8Cr13MoV in almost all models, perfectly adecuate, and maybe great...the same as Spyderco uses in the Bird line

On one occasion, by mistake, my chinese supplier here in Madrid slip in my order a dozen of Sanremu-blistered folders that were marked as Benchmarks!
I mean, with the Benchmark logo, marks, etc, but with the typical sanrenmu feel and fitings

Later, he told me that he had heard that sanrenmu´s manufacture makes the chinese-made Benchmark line...

A pic of the framelock of the 710

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/7826/96052321.jpg

The fine adjustment of the S.M.O.O.C.H

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/505/31777906.jpg

Fine, isn´t it?

culpeper
09-23-2009, 11:46 PM
Very informative post. Thanks!

Wouldn't that be something if Benchmark is using SRM to make knives?

wildjim
09-24-2009, 05:19 AM
If the fan boys knew who made what and for how much they'd be jumping out of their computer room windows to the pavement below : )

G. Scott H.
09-24-2009, 05:24 PM
If the fan boys knew who made what and for how much they'd be jumping out of their computer room windows to the pavement below : ) Wouldn't be much of a fall for me. My place is only one story. :D:p

wildjim
09-24-2009, 06:29 PM
Wouldn't be much of a fall for me. My place is only one story. :D:p

The real danger is if you jump and land on the kershaw, spyderco, sebenza, becker, ka-bar, griptilian, rat and the lock fails, then you'll be chanting for moma! If you're lucky the blade will snap in the ass cheek before it hits the shit for brains! If your name is b*stid you may land on a goat's horn instead, lets hope!

Hey G.Scott H. Its not a personal attack or directed at you rather just my quirky quip sense of humor ; )

dingyu1980
09-29-2009, 01:45 AM
Like I said, counterfeiting is wrong, plain and simple. Let's take SRM's 710 model for example. None of the three versions I've seen are screw-for-screw copies of the Sebenza, nor are they marked with any CRK logos, etc. Plus, let's face it, a person who is in the market for a Sebenza is not going to be satisfied with a $10 Chinese copy, no matter how nice it may be. They want the real thing. So, it's not like SRM Knives is cutting into CR's bottom line. The SRM knives appeal to people who like the basic design but can't afford or don't want to spend the cahs for a real Sebenza. THey just want a decent quality knife in that style for a low price. Now, if SRM made their 710s identical in every detail to a Sebenza and/or added fake CRK markings and tried to hoodwink people into thinking they were buying the real deal, that would piss me off, but such is not the case. End of story (at least for me).

man , your words are great!
i think copy design is not mean conterfeiting , is not good thing to the both company involved at all.
i like self-design and put the designer's soul in those works , but i am not standing on Opposing side ! just a by-stander ? maybe.:D