Old Car Vs. New Car...

[G. Scott H.]

I love a nice classic car as much as the next guy, but DAMN! I don't think I'd want to be in one during a crash. :eek:

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Insurance/InsureYourCar/crash-test-1959-chevy-vs-2009-chevy.aspx?gt1=33009

[kiah]

Crashed a perfectly good '59 Bel Air to make a useless point. Of course it's gonna be fucked up. The frames on 'em were an engineering nightmare, but as it's their own brand and it's not like people are buying them in place of a butt ugly 09 Malibu, I don't get it. :mad:

[Noss]

kiah, How is this a useless point ? :confused: They were comparing old vs new safety standards.

G. Scott H. Thanks for the link. Always fun to see cars crash. I wouldn't have wanted to be in the old model.:eek:

[kiah]

kiah, How is this a useless point ? :confused: They were comparing old vs new safety standards.


The old car they used was known to be one of the most unsafe vehicles made. The way it's constructed, it was destined to be a mess. Age wasn't really the issue, but design. "Useless" may have been strong. I guess my logic is that someone currently driving a '59 Bel Air isn't the type to watch that vid and go "Oh shit, I better trade her in for a new Malibu." ;)

And it was nice too. Butt ugly color, but a nice candy apple red paint job and ... :rockon: They could've at least used a Ford.

I think I know how Busseites felt now after the Basic test. :p

G. Scott H. Thanks for the link. Always fun to see cars crash. I wouldn't have wanted to be in the old model.:eek:

Me either, then again, my truck woulda just rolled over both of 'em. :D

[G. Scott H.]

I'm not knowledgeable enough on old cars (or cars in general) to speak one way or the other on the validity of this particular test. I just happened upon it (MSN happens to be my default homepage when I open up IE) and was shocked how poorly the old one did against the new. :thumb:

[Madnumforce]

Ouch... That's how you get cheap burger meat. I agree with Kiah that you don't own such a car for safety, but man, it looks awesome! I like old american cars from 40's to 70's. It began when i saw a pearl Cadillac Eldorado 1976 convertible... i just fell in love with it. But i don't even have a driver licence yet, and these cars consume too much considering gas price in France.

[Noss]

That's not the point of the test if one drives the car for safety or not. There is the idea that old cars are like tanks and will drive over newer cars in a crash. It's apparent that this is not the case from these tests since safety of these older cars was not high on the list of the designers. They are just comparing old world designs to new world car safety crash technology. This is all they are doing.

Emotions are getting in the way of the purpose of the tests. I run into the same problem with my tests. People get pissed because I destroy a knife that they want or have and fail to look at the dynamics of the tests themselves. Many revert back to the science argument when it doesn't go well for their favorite knife. What they fail to see is even if I do use science to D-test a knife I will still destroy the knife in the end. The end result will be the same.

Sure the older car is a nice classic and many would love to own one but if I did own one I would want to know how if fairs in a crash if this info is made available for me to see and read.

[wildjim]

That's not the point of the test if one drives the car for safety or not. There is the idea that old cars are like tanks and will drive over newer cars in a crash. It's apparent that this is not the case from these tests since safety of these older cars was not high on the list of the designers. They are just comparing old world designs to new world car safety crash technology. This is all they are doing.

Emotions are getting in the way of the purpose of the tests. I run into the same problem with my tests. People get pissed because I destroy a knife that they want or have and fail to look at the dynamics of the tests themselves. Many revert back to the science argument when it doesn't go well for their favorite knife. What they fail to see is even if I do use science to D-test a knife I will still destroy the knife in the end. The end result will be the same.

Sure the older car is a nice classic and many would love to own one but if I did own one I would want to know how if fairs in a crash if this info is made available for me to see and read.

I am guilty as I thought those old cars were tanks and my first impression of Knife Tests was why destroy a perfectly good knife.

Fortunantely I began think it over with an open mind and look at it from all sides and it then made perfect sense, then I began to purchase the knives with high marks and sure enough they do the job for me without failure. That is I believe safety and endurance tests are necessary; especially in the automobile industry. Knowledge is everything. If not for the efforts of Noss I would still be buying knives based on false advertisement. If I owned a 59 Belair I would surely want to know the information provided by the test.

http://www.cnet.com.au/crash-test-1959-chevy-versus-2009-chevy-339298706.htm

[Madnumforce]

That's not the point of the test if one drives the car for safety or not. There is the idea that old cars are like tanks and will drive over newer cars in a crash. It's apparent that this is not the case from these tests since safety of these older cars was not high on the list of the designers. They are just comparing old world designs to new world car safety crash technology. This is all they are doing.

Emotions are getting in the way of the purpose of the tests. I run into the same problem with my tests. People get pissed because I destroy a knife that they want or have and fail to look at the dynamics of the tests themselves. Many revert back to the science argument when it doesn't go well for their favorite knife. What they fail to see is even if I do use science to D-test a knife I will still destroy the knife in the end. The end result will be the same.

Sure the older car is a nice classic and many would love to own one but if I did own one I would want to know how if fairs in a crash if this info is made available for me to see and read.
Personnaly, i wasn't pretending these older cars were safer. And in fact, i'm not surprised at all of the result, though it's impressive to see. In my mind these cars are collector pieces anyway. I remember a father's friend that was a cars fan who had an accident, but wasn't injured hopefully, it was an old car also, and it just rolled around the tree, like modeling paste. Very impressive too. Maybe not all the cars designed in this period are so weak, they can't be as secure as modern cars of course, but they can be "less worst". On the other hand they are tanks considering how heavy these cars are.

[deemneks73]

yeah right and the new site change the background the interface and all, its gona change our mind so I prefer the new site from the old one