Chris Reeve Project I Video Desrtuction Test Completed

[Noss]

For those that have seen the CRK Green Beret D test. This one ends the same way. The Project is made of A2 tool Steel and it broke during the exact same test.

Cutting: fair
chopping: was not good.
Tip was: tough ( only broke the very end. Not a big deal)
Impact toughness: horrible ( like the GB)

End of test:



The next A2 knife I'm going to test is a Mission A2 an compare the difference.

The outcome here was very disappointing. :(

The videos are in 4 parts.

Enjoy the videos. They were made for you :)

Part 1
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Part 2
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Part 3
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Part 4
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[338 Stalker]

Faaaaaaaa#k :eek:

Well after watching that CR wont be getting my hard earned$$$. Two from two, a pattern has formed!

Noss, great review & thanks, you have saved me $$$.

[Tac45]

Another great test Noss. I find this one breaking a lot more spooky than the GB. Hollow handled knives are advertised as true survival knives. Knives built with a hollow handle for you to carry around emergency gear. I suppose the idea being that all you need is this tool with the handle filled.

Unfortunately there are many who think that a knife with tube full of 'survival' knick knacks is enough. Bad mistake. Worse mistake when the knife is presented as being the best of this type of design but turns out to be just as good a performer as a tube full of knick knacks.

Would I take this knife into the field? No. Would I buy this knife for my young son? No. A 'Rambo' knife is cheaper.

[Noss]

Thanks men. This was disappointing. All I'm really doing when they break is giving them a small extra jolt with the hammer. You can see where they are breaking not where I was hitting them but near the handle. I'm not wailing away on them like I do when I hammer through concrete or steel.

[kurodrago]

Nice test Noss! What I can say........ fire----------- :D

[miro44one]

Yup, nice test.The Sebenza stays one of my favorite folders, but the CR fixed blades...:(

[will york]

Thanks, Noss. Besides the break, you confirmed what I've found on other round-handled knives. Under any kind of lateral or rotational stress, as the blade tries to deflect, the handle wants to roll in your hand. I thought with your heavy gloves and the pointed checkering cut into the grip that the handle might not have been a problem--and it wasn't on direct stabbing impacts--but its weakness as a chopper certainly showed the handle to be a problem with lateral deflection and torquing. And when round handles get wet and slippery, the problem can get much worse.

By the way, I believe the model you tested is the Project I. The Project II has an even narrower clip point that obviously would not be as strong as the spearpoint on the one you tested.

[Noss]

It was the Project I an not the II. Thanks for the correction Will.

If it is supposed to be a chopper. It's very odd. The knife is more like a pig sticker I guess.

[Gman1128]

Thanks Noss, That was a great test, disappointing but very interesting. I think Chris Reeve has some major problems with their heat treat. Their knives are great to look at, but that is really all they are good at.

[Macgregor]

Great test bro.
"O shit, your gona have to move man"
Ahahahahaha, love that line.

[Macgregor]

Its a Chris Reeve two piece. :D

[eatingmuchface]

wow...
Well the A2 WAS tougher, but I do like my user knives (field knives) to be as tough as I can get...
so I probably wouldn't want to have this knife with me.
:D
great test, thanks.
(also, I'd want something that would hold a better edge while batoning... I was just batoning some really hard locust the other day, like I mentioned before, and my DFLE lost it's shaving sharp edge after a few armfulls, but then held that edge for a while and hasn't changed much)

[Macgregor]

Knives lose their razor edge real quick but maitain a working edge for a very long time.

[slipfirep40]

I see a major

http://www.evilmilk.com/pictures/Shit_Storm_Coming.jpg

on the horizon.


So, have you left the country yet?

[slipfirep40]

Its a Chris Reeve two piece. :D


Funny!!!!!:D

[jack]

Hi Noss,

Great review and test! I applaud you for you honesty and your forum! Where else is the consumer going to get to the truth, and you tell it like it is! It gets pretty old hearing all those companies saying this and that about there product, glad to see the truth be shown!

I would like a forum like yours that tests some guns to there limit (glock , Hk, sig etc). Ever consider doing that?

[Macgregor]

Welcome to the forum Jack.

Dont quote me but I bet if you donated a firearm Noss would be more then happy to test it. :D

[vvk]

Hi Noss,

Great review and test! I applaud you for you honesty and your forum! Where else is the consumer going to get to the truth, and you tell it like it is! It gets pretty old hearing all those companies saying this and that about there product, glad to see the truth be shown!

I would like a forum like yours that tests some guns to there limit (glock , Hk, sig etc). Ever consider doing that?

Guess, poor Noss could use a firearm or two once his house is taken under siege from angry survival knifes makers :)

Noss,
Great test again! Keep them coming. And don't forget to bolt the door! ): I am curious about the Mission in A2, I have the titanium MPK and as specialized tool it is very good but for general work the A2 should be superior. BTW who's next?

[Noss]

Gman1128: They seem to have a problem. I have not had many knives break like
this. An now I have 2 CRK's do the same thing.

eatingmuchface: A2 should be a tough steel. This was CRK's A2 depending on how
it is handled it may be good or poor. I need to test another makers A2 an see how it compares.


jack: Welcome to the forum. Send me some Glocks an HK's an FN's an I be glad to test them to limit. :D It may be a few years before I get to testing them. :p:D

vvk: I completed the M9 an Russian bayonet tests. They are up next. Since I did them together. I have a lot of footage to edit. I'm working on it now. I plan to test the Basic 9 and the Ka-bar D2 this Saturday.

[xxo]

A Bark River Bravo 1 in A2 would be interesting.

[Noss]

xxo: A bravo 1 would be a good candidate.

[Thecarotidpulse]

daaame....

OK well CRK isnt going to be happy =/

On the other hand... here's what I have to say to them: "you don't like the way your knife handles in tests? Don't whine about the tests being unfair - make your knives better!"

Honestly, They are supposed to be Military combat survival whatev knives... that means that some poor bloke is going to parachute out of an aircraft with a CRK and just when he needs it, perhaps to save his life, it's going to break?

It was a promising knife too... thick, nice spear point. No reason why it couldn't be a good stabber - and yet made needle holes... Compare that to the LMFII cutting through freaking fuselage and the Ranger punching through like there was something on the other side it wanted.

(by the way, best stabber?)

Look at Busse's web page... they say that they've never been able to break one of their knives. Heck after the D test i'll believe it but i would like to ask CRK to run tests on their knives before marketing them because as far as I'm concerned they have lost their name.

So good on you Noss... Can't wait to see the new tests and let us know if there is any fallout....

P.s just challenge whoever shows up to a Duel and whip out your FFBM o.O

[Thecarotidpulse]

oh and I love the "oh shit"

=D

[Tac45]

Noss is now going to fix the water tank a bit. He will add a turret and some christie suspension.

[Izan]

Wow. That blade broke really fast. I am disappointed that I will have to read more flamers on this forum for the next week talking about "scientific" testing.

[Macgregor]

Its gona happen.

[G. Scott H.]

xxo: A bravo 1 would be a good candidate. Another vote for an A2 Barkie. Any of the larger A2 BRKTs would be cool to see. :cool:

[Noss]

I just read on blade forums that I hit the CRK between the wood an the handle. I checked the video to be sure if this was the case or not.

Here are two photos I extracted out of the video. the first one shows the exact moment of impact. The second shows when the CRK Project separated. You can clearly see the hammer was not in between the wood and the handle when the contact was made. The knife tilted down and the hammer slid forward after the hit. It's hard to see in the you tube video because it was so fast.

[Tac45]

Noss I don't think that will satisy the moron who made that comment. By the time it got to that part of the test they were probably seething with rage anyway, clouding their judgement. They obviously already had determined the test to be false before it commenced.

They should get a life. Get over the fact the knife broke and move on.

You know your tests are true. You know you have no agenda. Anyone with half a brain who bothers to watch all your tests know this.

Thanks you for your time and effort.

[Noss]

He wasn't bashing the test or me. That was just his observation. You know me I just want
to verify everything. :D I just figured I would check an see if the observation was correct or not.

[Tac45]

Noss I don't think that will satisy the moron who made that comment. By the time it got to that part of the test they were probably seething with rage anyway, clouding their judgement. They obviously already had determined the test to be false before it commenced.

They should get a life. Get over the fact the knife broke and move on.

You know your tests are true. You know you have no agenda. Anyone with half a brain who bothers to watch all your tests know this.

Thanks you for your time and effort.

I jumped the gun on this one. My mistake and foolish it is. I read the post on BF . The poster was making a judgement from his perception of the angle of hit. He didn't have a single derogatory thing to say. I apologise to him if he reads this. Not often going to the forums there anymore I've become used to the rubbish that gets dumped on these tests. I will post this over there as flame comments are what took me away from forums for some years.

[kurodrago]

Well said, Tac45. Just let's keep this forum free form fuckers :D My last comment is I realy don't think that "Lile Rambo Knives chain" will be or will do better than this one;)

[Macgregor]

Well we can look on the bright side, you can probly pick up a one-piece for pretty damn cheap now.

[jack]

Hi Everyone,

Thanks Noss and Macgregor, this forum is something us knife aficionados need!

VVK: I know Noss is steping on some big toes, but I think he has a big enough boot to handle them when they come after him, ha ha.

I wish I did have some firearms to donate for testing, guess I'll have to win the lotto first!!

Take care all

(cant wait for a cold steel trailmaster test!)

[eatingmuchface]

kurodrago, yeah, I think other hollow handled knives would o far worse than this one.
still, kind of dissapointing.

I would LOVE to see a BRKT knife tested.
the only thing is the Bravo 1 has a skeletonized tang for the balanc to be right... I wonder how this will hold up???
soldiers are going to be using it, so hopefully it holds up well for a knife of it's size.
:D

[Macgregor]

A skelly tang should do fine if they placed the cut outs right.
It can even add strength like and arch.

[kiah]

First, let me say that I am totally against knockoffs.

That said. It would be interesting to test one of the Schrade branded "Exreme Survival" knives to see how well they compare. They are an almost exact copy of the CRK Project.

[eatingmuchface]

I guess in theory it could mac...
but idk.

Kiahs, i have the feeling they wouldn't do as good.

[Tac45]

First, let me say that I am totally against knockoffs.

That said. It would be interesting to test one of the Schrade branded "Exreme Survival" knives to see how well they compare. They are an almost exact copy of the CRK Project.

That would be interesting. Sad to see that a great company like Schrade closed and the old good name has been bought and is now used to make knives in the PRC. Imagine if it did better!

Kuro. I would love a real original 'Rambo' knife by the late Jimmy Lile. That would certainly be something to add to my collection. I might have to sell my car to get one though. Maybe I could do it cheap and buy one of the new next generation 'Rambo' knives. Only 3500 dollars US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kiah]

That would be interesting. Sad to see that a great company like Schrade closed and the old good name has been bought and is now used to make knives in the PRC. Imagine if it did better!

It very easily could. It wouldn't take much. :rolleyes:

These are being contracted by Taylor, who uses the Schrade and S&W names. If these are being made in the same factory as the S&W S&R knives, it could easily outperform the Reeves. The S&W noss tested outlasted the CRK, and only broke at an obvious weak point. Not to mention having better edge retention.

[Noss]

The Schrade model is going to be tested. I will have one in my hands soon. I would bet the Schrade copy will do well. It's made of 1070 from what I hear. Many knives I have tested in the 10 series carbon steels have done well for the most part.

[G. Scott H.]

Looking forward to the Schrade test.

Do you know the Rockwell on the Project I? I'm guessing it's pretty hard. I'm really leaning toward the idea that it's better to have a blade that's a few point softer than many so-called top-of-the-line knives just for the sake of toughness. You can always straighten out and re-edge a softer knife (mid to upper-mid 50s HRC range, as a generalization), but once you snap a harder blade, edge retention doesn't mean squat (which is often the justification given for going to higher hardness). :(

[kiah]

Do you know the Rockwell on the Project I?

Rockwell is 55-57

[G. Scott H.]

Wow! I would have guessed around 58-59. :eek: Obviously, hardness isn't the only determinig factor in strength and toughness, but, man! Carbon steel at 55-57 by a known manufacturer seems like it would be MUCH tougher than what we saw in the vid. :(

[slipfirep40]

Hi Noss,
I would like a forum like yours that tests some guns to there limit (glock , Hk, sig etc). Ever consider doing that?


You mean like this?

http://theprepared.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=90&Itemid=40

Hopefully, If things go somewhat right, I may be doing tests like this within thbe next couple of years. Performance and destruction testing of thing from firearms to flashlights.

[G. Scott H.]

Noss's tests are apparently incomplete. He now needs to throw knives from an airplane, drag them behind his truck, shoot them with .22s, and do some rust tests. :D

That poor (but tough!) Glock seems to have exceded expectations. Great tests! Thanks for the link.

[slipfirep40]

http://www.tuffsteel.com/DVD/glocktorture.htm

http://springfield-armory.primediaoutdoors.com/SPstory11.ph (http://springfield-armory.primediaoutdoors.com/SPstory11.php)p

[Thecarotidpulse]

Noss's tests are apparently incomplete. He now needs to throw knives from an airplane, drag them behind his truck, shoot them with .22s, and do some rust tests. :D

That poor (but tough!) Glock seems to have exceded expectations. Great tests! Thanks for the link.

Well actually.....


I dont really know how to say this...

But the guy in this video really doesn't like cold steel =/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24lO48laJsQ

Like REALLY doesn't like...

And he has a gun :S

[kurodrago]

kurodrago, yeah, I think other hollow handled knives would o far worse than this one.
still, kind of dissapointing.

I would LOVE to see a BRKT knife tested.
the only thing is the Bravo 1 has a skeletonized tang for the balanc to be right... I wonder how this will hold up???
soldiers are going to be using it, so hopefully it holds up well for a knife of it's size.
:D

Man, I love the Bravo 1 but maybe when someday, I will buy this knife. Certainly I want a FULL TANG HANDLE. To me skeletonized tang is meaningless and most of I have not asked for! You know they must put a price$$$$ on it. In the name of "balanced knife" crappp ,,,,but I say again I love the design.:cool:




Kuro. I would love a real original 'Rambo' knife by the late Jimmy Lile. That would certainly be something to add to my collection. I might have to sell my car to get one though. Maybe I could do it cheap and buy one of the new next generation 'Rambo' knives. Only 3500 dollars US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I do feel you! I play the lottery every week if I win, although I don't want one!

[eatingmuchface]

I don't think skeletonizing the tang adds that much to the price does it?
and they had to make the balance correct for the military.
so they say...i don't think they're a company to rip you off really.

[Macgregor]

That Schrade is a one piece to, amazing what they can do in china now.
I have only heard good reviews on it.

[eatingmuchface]

oh wow it's a one piece?
oh wow...
cool.
hey I just checked my DFLE and it actually can still shave hair... idk why I assumed it couldn't.
:D
cool.

[Bors]

Nice Job on the test.

I guess CRK knives are really nothing more than designer knives.....

[Noss]

Bors: Welcome to the forum. The CRK's have a low threshold for pain. I'm never able to get very rough with them.

[me2]

Whoever said something about testing the Bravo 1 really wants to start a shit storm. I remember the steaming pileup on BF after someone suggested that the tests that selected it didnt include a Busse. Pages and pages of crap, for 2 weeks. No one even broke one.

The A2 as hardened by CRK has been debated before by "He who shall not be named" (on BF) Cliff Stamp. If you believe him, and based on the experience in this test I have to at least listen to his claims, the tempering CRK uses hits a trough in toughness, with peaks on either side. A little higher or lower and toughness goes up quite a bit. Hardness vs. toughness is only inversely related in general terms, and is not a linear relationship. There are peaks and valleys and peaks again. Not all steels show these trends, but A2 is one, as well as many low alloy steels and plain carbon steels like 10xx, 5160, 52100, 01, L6, 41xx, 43xx, etc. Certain temperature ranges are to be avoided, specific to each steel, if the phenomenon occurs for it. Cliff told me his source for the some of the graphs on his site is the American Society for Metals, who literally wrote the books on the subject, all 13+ volumes. A2 has a lot of carbon, and the more carbon, generally the lower toughness. A2 is widely reputed to have good toughness. In my view this is a relative statement when it is compared to other tool steels. It will not be as tough as 4340, 5160, L6, S7, and some others with very high toughness. A8 has very high toughness, and is in the same family as A2, cold work air hardening die steels.

Keep it up Noss, very entertaining and informative, although I must confess, one has to see the tests for what they are: toughness tests. Noss does not, nor has he claimed to provide, information on edge holding, sharpening, cutting ability, or any other property. Read the effing site before griping about his testing and info. (not directed at anyone in particular, just the general group that keeps saying "well, I just wont hit my knife with a hammer." No shit? No one does, unless they have no choice, or intend to try to break the knife. Noss has the latter clearly stated in big letters in the site, one knife tested to DESTRUCTION. People who say things like this are completely missing the point of the tests.

[Noss]

What some people seem to aways miss about the tests. Is I have never broke any knife chopping or batoning wood with wood. If I just did this there would be zero difference in toughness. The only knife I damaged was the Ka-bar yet it didn't break. Many people make claims that these knives are far tougher then most less popular brands. Only through destruction testing can we begin to see the difference in toughness an strength.

Some pretend to be tough and some are truly tough without pretending. I prefer to own an use the the real deal.

[Noss]

That Schrade is a one piece to, amazing what they can do in china now.
I have only heard good reviews on it.



Yeah. I know someone who requested I test one an they have worked them over well from what I was told. So I curious to test one.

[Noss]

I don't know if the Mission A2 will be next. I just go some photos and heard about how poor it was. They had just got it tested it doing some chopping an a few other tests and the knife performed like a disaster.

Here is a photo.

http://knifetest.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=76&d=1213943557

I'll find out some more details about it.

[vvk]

I don't know if the Mission A2 will be next. I just go some photos and heard about how poor it was. They had just got it tested it doing some chopping an a few other tests and the knife performed like a disaster.

Here is a photo.

http://knifetest.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=76&d=1213943557

I'll find out some more details about it.

Noss where the heck did you find this picture? Could it be, as other posters mentioned, that the heat treating of A2 is hit or miss? At least for the titanium Mission MPK we can be reasonably sure that it is , tough, tough knife as proved by cliff stamp whose results BTW seems to closely correlate with yours. The way you are going soon you will be claiming that Father Xmas is just a myth :)

[elpidi]

Hey Noss,

I'm pretty new to the site but I've already watched a few of your tests. I think they're excellent. I'm getting pretty tired of fanboys complaining about their favorite knives breaking due to some 'unrealistic scenarios' like concrete cutting. If you're showing that their knife can't take the abuse that some of the others can, then I believe such a test is more than valid and, in fact, necessary.

Well, here's my question--I've been doing some research and came across some 'gurus' singing the praises of a particular TOPS brand survival knife called the Dawn Warrior. I was curious how the knife would hold up under the scrutiny of a KnifeTests pounding!!! What do you think?

Love your site, keep it up

[Gerry.Agnosia]

..................................

[eatingmuchface]

you guys can feel free to post in the "post what knives you would like to see tested" area of the forum.
Noss Might notice it more their.
:D

[eatingmuchface]

but speaking of tops knives (which I would love to see tested also)
I was looking for some vids on the tops tracker and found this site

http://www.wildernessoutfittersarchery.com/

this guy has some awesome youtube vids (and heavily supports tops and Kabar) and I saw that a link to your site is posted on his site.
http://www.wildernessoutfittersarchery.com/CatKnives.html

pretty cool.
:D

[Noss]

vvk: The photo is of Fins77's Mission A2 here on the forum.

http://knifetest.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1509&postcount=3



elpidi: I'll look into the dawn warrior. I plan to test a Tops Steel eagle here soon.

[kurodrago]

I don't think skeletonizing the tang adds that much to the price does it?
and they had to make the balance correct for the military.
so they say...i don't think they're a company to rip you off really.

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s307/kurodrago/Balance_Skeleton_sized9999999999999.jpg
"The Balance of the knife had to be on the First Finger.
Balance Was Achieved by Skeletonizing the Tang to put the Weight Evenly over the First Finger Position."

Thy could accomplish this even with a full tang!

"All of the Bravo-1's have the handle sets attached with Bolt Sets. they are non Removable. We grind off the Screw Slots as we finish out the handles."
http://www.jerzeedevil.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21746
from this gallery pic I guess we have two different skeletonizing tang-s maybe!!??
Just watch the Bolt Sets.

The so-called experts say that the structure of the handle will not effect the strength!?

I disagree!
With time Water can enter the handle and create problems, rust can corrode your handle without be notice.
Vibration in my opinion are also a problem.....and handle like that does not help.

[lafayette]

I used to enjoy very much this knife. I used it 'normally" for two yaers and I only found it hard to sharpen. How disapointing to see it breaks so easily...

Great test anyway.

[bel_dad]

Could it be he is making his knives "too hard?" I'm thinking the cheap knives are doing well because they are just soft enough. They will bend before they break. It almost seems like Chris's knives are shattering like glass.

bd

[Not too bad, man]

Could it be he is making his knives "too hard?" I'm thinking the cheap knives are doing well because they are just soft enough. They will bend before they break. It almost seems like Chris's knives are shattering like glass.

bd

They are 55-57RC though, which makes the whole thing puzzling for me.:confused:

[mbhanzo]

I handled the MPT Knife Fins77 tested and it was definately sub par.. I was able to bend the blade with my bare hands and it stayed bent... The steel was very soft and seemed nearly as soft as aluminum.. I'm not sure what the deal with that knife was but I can tell you it was a complete piece of ....! I was pissed and it wasn't even my knife.. On another note... I had edge fractures in my Chopweiler this weekend batoning on some logs for the fire.. I was very suprised and a little let down to say the least...

[mbhanzo]

There is a fine line between too soft and too hard.. The goal is a balance and some makers have found that balance and some not..

[kiah]

I had edge fractures in my Chopweiler this weekend batoning on some logs for the fire.. I was very suprised and a little let down to say the least...

Got any pics of that? I saw a Dogfather on BF recently that had major damage from chopping. Anyway, send that Rat in to Eric and he'll make it right.

[eatingmuchface]

dogfather?
was it an LE?
they have really thin edges so I could see it happening.
but I batoned mine into a bolt (just a couple of good wacks before I realized it) and didn't get much except for some flattened spots on the edge.

fractures on a chopweiler?
fractures as in chips/blowouts.
or denting/rolling.
(you would seriously NOT believe how many people can not tell the difference between and chip and a dent, or seem fine calling a dent a chip)
hopefully eric will make things right.

[Templar]

The serrated edge increse the possibility of broken the blade, bescouse it is a preferential point where the fracture can be formed and extend quickly, indifferently by the steel used.

Hello.

[miro44one]

Noss has tested alot of knives with serrations, though, and none of them failed like the Chris Reeve knives.

[Noss]

Templar: Welcome to the forum. As miro44one stated. I have tested other blades with serrations. None have failed like the 2 CRK knives. Based on my testing here. Just because a knife has serrations does not mean a blade will fail or contribute to it failing or can it be predicted to fail because the knife has serrations.

[Templar]

Interesting. What knives with serrated edge you have tested?

Hello.

[Not too bad, man]

Interesting. What knives with serrated edge you have tested?

There are tests on the Kabar (two different tests for two different knives) and the Gerber LMF. All three of those have partially serrated blades. Check through the video archives, I'm sure there are more. :)

[miro44one]

And not to forget the SOG Seal 2000.
And the Red Scorpion 6 Blades Predator had a saw on the spine, that didn' t break, even though Noss continously beat it with the steel mallet.

[Thecarotidpulse]

Lol safe to say that an illogical theory has been shot down?


;)

[Noss]

Interesting. What knives with serrated edge you have tested?

Hello.

The SOG seal 2000. The Gerber LMF II, Ka-bar D2 extreme. The Red scorpion 6 had a saw and I could not get a failure.

[Templar]

Lol safe to say that an illogical theory has been shot down?


;)


Not illogical. Is like than the edges (I hope is the right word), that are preferentiall point where the fracture can formed and increse quickly.

Regards

[Paul The Brit]

I couldn't believe that knife failed then under such little abuse! To me any fixed blade should have walked away from any amount of that use (hammer batoning into wood at 45degrees) with nothing worse than a mushroomed spine.. Very poor metallurgy indeed. I have looked at CRK a few times but no more.

[Noss]

Yeah very few knives I have tested have failed that test. Only 4 have gone down and 2 were the CRK's. They are also 2 of the most expensive I have tested. But hey at least you
can carry some matches in the handle. :rolleyes: :D

[Paul The Brit]

Yeah very few knives I have tested have failed that test. Only 4 have gone down and 2 were the CRK's. They are also 2 of the most expensive I have tested. But hey at least you
can carry some matches in the handle. :rolleyes: :D

LOL!!! When you are sitting outside next to your mates shelter (that he built with his S6, DF, B7 or FBM which didn't break) at least you can try to blag a bed for the night by offering to get the fire going! :p

[The Cameraman]

But hey at least you can carry some matches in the handle. :rolleyes: :D

LMFAO!!! Our knife tester, ladies and gentlemen, our knife tester :D:D.


CHEERS TO NOT BEING POLITICALLY CORRECT, NOSS...THE EFFING CAMERAMAN

[AfterTFD]

They are 55-57RC though, which makes the whole thing puzzling for me.:confused:

I can't remember whether this has been mentioned in this thread yet or not.

Steels have separate curves for hardness and toughness. It does not hold universally true that as hardness increases toughness decreases or vice versa. If I remember right in the case of A2 steel toughness decreases as hardness decreases when tempering is done between about 520 and 880 degrees F (61-54rc). In other words by making the blade softer they made it weaker.

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I read this also. A2 should be harder for it to be tougher. It should be around 60 RC from what I have read.