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stonehands
01-19-2010, 10:15 PM
Is there a knife test comparison chart?
One that shows each knife, its specs, how it did at each test.
This would help in determining which knife would be best in each and over.
A rating system would be great too.
Spending hours so far watching one vid at a time.:headbang:

I'm a nube so please forgive the ignorance.

jankerson
01-19-2010, 11:11 PM
Here. :)

http://knifetests.com/

culpeper
01-19-2010, 11:37 PM
Also, Noss leaves up to the viewer to decide on his own. I sort of like the lack of a comprehensive compare and contrast system. It would lead to criticism of being subjective and; thus, showing favoritism. The old gum shoe detective work of watching the tests is the best approach. I believe he knows the viewer has enough sense to come to the correct conclusion and if he doesn't than that's too bad. But what Noss needs is an official "Complaint Department" to handle all the criticism. I think it is too much for him to tackle on his own and continue testing with motivation. Personally, I would set up a passive complain system with a stock answer each time like...

"Please email complaints and criticism to complaints@knifetest.com" Give the responsibility to someone else to cull through and post a balance of good and bad for readers to yet come to their own conclusion again. It could be a locked forum for "read only". This way Noss could pace himself and pick and choose the time and place to personally respond to a crisis of sort. I know he gets sick of explaining himself and his methods over and over again. There is no need for that.

Noss
01-20-2010, 01:26 AM
stonehands: Welcome to the forum. The best I have is the sword rating system on the site. This was put in place for this reason. A comparison chart would be nice detailing how each knife performed in each portion of the whole D-test but I just don't have the time to do this at the moment. So the ratings are the best for narrowing it down. Many people also just watch the last video of the series were I give an overview of the results. Some of the earlier videos didn't follow the same procedure I have in place now. They were random without any organization. I was just getting started so I didn't have my methods down yet.


culpeper: Ha Ha a compliant line. Who would want to answer all the emails though ? :confused::D

dingyu1980
01-20-2010, 03:57 AM
no need to do a test that with two competitors , cause NOSS did tests with the same procedure , and you can look these tests as one ! lots of candidates here . is it enough to make sense ?

Madnumforce
01-20-2010, 05:28 AM
Welcome to the forum, Stonehands.

A more detailled rating system could be a good idea, but when you think carefully it's not possible. Why? Because many knives tested don't belong to the same category and are not designed for the same use. Some bigger knives are clearly choppers, some smaller are clearly carvers/skinners, etc.. but some are in between. Only the user can interpret the facts (i.e. the videos) in the way of his own perspective of use, his own habbits, etc...

For exemple, someone wants a chopper. He comes to knifetests.com and see the knives allready tested. He sees the high rating of the Battle Mistress, and of the Cold Steel Kukri Machete, both being very good performers when it comes to toughness. But they are many subjective critera, or personnal choices, that will make the difference. Mistresses are expansive and can almost only be found on exchange forums, but even used have still great re-sell value. On the other hand, CS Kukri Machete is cheap, but have less rigidity, and a kukri shape that may not fit every needs or tastes.

The basic sword rating system just sums up the overall impression Noss had when testing it, but if you're a hunter, for exemple, and need a hunting knife, you won't just take the knife with the higher rating (which is the Battle Mistress), as it is obvious you will put much money in a knife that won't fit the main use you bought it for (skinning and field dressing, in this exemple). The danger in a more detailed precise rating system would be to encourage people not to think about what a knife is above all: a tool, and has the only purpose to fulfill user's needs and use.

If this detailed rating system existed, someone that comes for a 4"-5" long blade would just go to the tables, check blade lenght, and choose the higher rated, without thinking even one single moment that there is a relationship between the job to be done, the user, and the tool. People wouldn't ask them-selves these questions, wouldn't be curious, wouldn't even watch the D-test videos maybe, wouldn't come to this forum to ask for further information, for other users advices, etc... Knitests.com would just become a buying advice machine, not a human community of knives enthousiasts and users anymore.