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jankerson
02-12-2010, 01:05 PM
Short Video of these two field blades chopping a pine log, neither blade is a real heavy chopper persay, but they both did well taking into account the light weight of these blades. The BWM weighs 23oz ves the TM at 17oz.

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Madnumforce
02-12-2010, 01:51 PM
Interesting.

It appears to me that the TM is a much better chopper for the weight than the BWM.

Lesson: for large logs, bring a folding saw.

Thanks for sharing.
jankerson
02-12-2010, 02:35 PM
It was pretty close really. :)
Madnumforce
02-12-2010, 03:15 PM
In performance, yes, but if the weights your quoted are correct, the BWM is twice as heavy as the TM, and that's where the difference stands.
jankerson
02-12-2010, 03:21 PM
In performance, yes, but if the weights your quoted are correct, the BWM is twice as heavy as the TM, and that's where the difference stands.

23 ounces to 17 ounces, 6 ounce difference. ;)

The FFBM in the other video is twice the weight at 32 ounces. ;)
Madnumforce
02-12-2010, 04:02 PM
Humph... I don't have the eyes facing the holes today*.

*French expression = I don't see clearly, I'm confused, I talk crap.
jankerson
02-12-2010, 04:08 PM
Humph... I don't have the eyes facing the holes today*.

*French expression = I don't see clearly, I'm confused, I talk crap.


That's funny. :D
Jmd
02-13-2010, 01:14 AM
jankerson,
Thanks for the demo. Couple of questions/observations.

Does the CS feel more blade heavy than the BWM, meaning is the weight more towards the tip?

Are the edges ground similar?

I noticed that when you started chopping with the BWM you didn't shift over so you were chopping in a similar fashion as with the CS. Could this have caused you not to chop with as much force when you were changing angles on the cuts?

Looks like you were repositioning your grip more on the BWM, is the handle uncomfortable. It looks as though the CS has a more shock absorbing handle since the BWM is either canvas or G-10. Do you think this is a factor for the repositioning?

Looks like you had to chop through a knot also with the BWM. May this have been a factor for the cuts not being as deep?

Overall I am impressed with the CS and the BWM. I haven't used my BWM yet and am looking forward to it. Glad to see the CS did well.

Thanks again.
Jason
jankerson
02-13-2010, 07:30 AM
jankerson,
Thanks for the demo. Couple of questions/observations.

Does the CS feel more blade heavy than the BWM, meaning is the weight more towards the tip?

Are the edges ground similar?

I noticed that when you started chopping with the BWM you didn't shift over so you were chopping in a similar fashion as with the CS. Could this have caused you not to chop with as much force when you were changing angles on the cuts?

Looks like you were repositioning your grip more on the BWM, is the handle uncomfortable. It looks as though the CS has a more shock absorbing handle since the BWM is either canvas or G-10. Do you think this is a factor for the repositioning?

Looks like you had to chop through a knot also with the BWM. May this have been a factor for the cuts not being as deep?

Overall I am impressed with the CS and the BWM. I haven't used my BWM yet and am looking forward to it. Glad to see the CS did well.

Thanks again.
Jason


They feel about the same really, but the Trail Master has a much thicker blade 5/16" for the TM to 3/16" for the BWM so you don't get as much feedback as you do with the BWM.

Both knives have 40 degree edges.

The handles are just alittle small for me on the BWM, my hands are pretty big.

The wood was very hard so it really wouldn't matter too much with either knife since they both are light, light knives bounce off really hard wood because they don't have the weight to really bite deep at 1st. ;)

Watch the other video of the FFBM I posted and you will see the difference it makes when a heavy chopper is used. ;)
Noss
02-13-2010, 01:36 PM
Excellent ! The trail master won that round. It is true about lighter choppers bouncing off the wood instead of biting the wood. The Browning comp knife is bad about this. It's good at chopping but you have to adjust the way you chop with it by using the heavier section of the blade closer to the handle.

Another great video. :thumb: Thanks a bunch.
jankerson
02-13-2010, 06:02 PM
Excellent ! The trail master won that round. It is true about lighter choppers bouncing off the wood instead of biting the wood. The Browning comp knife is bad about this. It's good at chopping but you have to adjust the way you chop with it by using the heavier section of the blade closer to the handle.

Another great video. :thumb: Thanks a bunch.

They really do bounce that's for sure, not like the heavy knives that just bite. :D
Jmd
02-13-2010, 10:22 PM
They feel about the same really, but the Trail Master has a much thicker blade 5/16" for the TM to 3/16" for the BWM so you don't get as much feedback as you do with the BWM.

Both knives have 40 degree edges.

The handles are just alittle small for me on the BWM, my hands are pretty big.

The wood was very hard so it really wouldn't matter too much with either knife since they both are light, light knives bounce off really hard wood because they don't have the weight to really bite deep at 1st. ;)

Watch the other video of the FFBM I posted and you will see the difference it makes when a heavy chopper is used. ;)

Thanks, and I did.
I appreciate the reply and videos. :thumb:
Jason
jankerson
02-14-2010, 12:05 AM
Thanks, and I did.
I appreciate the reply and videos. :thumb:
Jason


Thanks. :D :thumb:
DanOh
06-18-2010, 02:34 PM
They really do bounce that's for sure, not like the heavy knives that just bite. :D

I just received my BWM today--very nice knife. To me it seems that the point of the blade was heavy enough to bite into what ever it hits. There is some good belly to it.
I have always loved my Trail Master but it some what felt more of a wacker than a chopper. I attributed it to the straight clip point--where the BWM has more sweep. I have not done anything with the BWM--just came 1 hour ago--but I can understand the potential bounce. I had purchased a Spyderco Hossom Forager-7 1/2" blade and that took some getting used to. I thought it was me--I have small hands and I experienced some "slop" in the handle when I would swing it. We will see how my BWM works out.
jankerson
06-18-2010, 03:23 PM
I just received my BWM today--very nice knife. To me it seems that the point of the blade was heavy enough to bite into what ever it hits. There is some good belly to it.
I have always loved my Trail Master but it some what felt more of a wacker than a chopper. I attributed it to the straight clip point--where the BWM has more sweep. I have not done anything with the BWM--just came 1 hour ago--but I can understand the potential bounce. I had purchased a Spyderco Hossom Forager-7 1/2" blade and that took some getting used to. I thought it was me--I have small hands and I experienced some "slop" in the handle when I would swing it. We will see how my BWM works out.

I think you will like it. :thumb: