Question on the Strider BT

[will york]

Noss,

Did the Strider BT you tested have the flaming BOS stamp or any other marking to indicate the heat treat was by Paul Bos?

If it did have the BOS mark, that would be interesting. If not, that doesn't really prove anything--Bos may have done it, or it may be an example of Strider's in-house heat treat--no way to know which if not marked, I guess.

Thanks!

[Noss]

Will
I just looked at it an it does not have the BOS stamp on it.

[338 Stalker]

Pretty sure Strider use the exact same heat-treat method as Bos :thumb:

[338 Stalker]

http://www.badlandsforums.com/faq/UnofficialFAQ.shtml

Who heat treats the Strider knives?
Paul Bos performs a UNIQUE to Strider heat treat on all Strider Knives.
The hardness for S30V is 59.5/60RC

Strider Knives, Inc. performs the heat treat on their Damascus blades.

Update 9/8/05
Per Mick Strider:

"We don't use Paul on ALL of our gear any longer.

When they (BUCK) made the move up to the new place, there was half a year with no heat treat. Paul founded the place we use here, and we still use his procedure. We just can't ship every knife to our ol uncle hot fingers any longer....

So rather than bother with the stamping of the knives he actually does....we just stopped stamping the logo."

[will york]

338-

I'd read that explanation, also, but I guess I'm getting a little cynical in my old age. Actually, I'm kinda glad the one Noss used didn't have the Bos stamp. I hope the fact that the knife performed so well in Noss's testing is a good indicator that Strider successfully picked up where Bos left off--nice to see.

Love that .338 mag by the way--or are you a .338 Federal man?

Thanks again, Noss--
will

[Noss]

Will , No problem. There is one more S30V knife I really want to test an thats a Crusader Forge Oberland 03

[338 Stalker]

Love that .338 mag by the way--or are you a .338 Federal man?

Thanks again, Noss--
will

1958 was a great year WY. 338 Winchester Magnum all the way :thumb:

This is my 338WM, with a 7-08Rem barrel option.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b80/Tez308/R93-33.jpg

[Tac45]

Nice set up .338. I note the placed Strider. Very in keeping with the thread. Is that Pach Skin stuck on the stock? If so how does it hold up to use. Does it stay on long?

[will york]

This is my 338WM, with a 7-08Rem barrel option.

Is there anything better than a Blaser R93 Professional for serious hunting? I see your rain tape is at the ready.

Leupolds?

Super nice rig, bro' .

[338 Stalker]

Nice set up .338. I note the placed Strider. Very in keeping with the thread. Is that Pach Skin stuck on the stock? If so how does it hold up to use. Does it stay on long?

Thanks Tac.

No Pach-skin. The R93 Pro stock comes with ELASTIC inserts. Real sticky with superb grip.
Super tough & very well made. But that's German workmanship for you :thumb:

[338 Stalker]

Is there anything better than a Blaser R93 Professional for serious hunting? I see your rain tape is at the ready.

Leupolds?

Super nice rig, bro' .

Cheers WY :thumb: .

For me there isn't much better. The safety & the straight-pull system is the cream on the cake with these. By far the most practical/accurate rig I've owned, & I've owned a few over the years.
My friend has the Sauer 202. Not near the R93 IMHO, nice rig just a different kettle of fish.
I just love this system with it's seriously tough stock(with palm-swell), elastic inserts, precise bedding system with super fast/simple barrel change, straight-pull collet system & the push-button to cock safety. And lets not forget the scope mounting setup, that is a work of art!

Sold most of my other rifles once I grew with my R93. Best thing I ever did. Still have my Pre-64 Model 70 though. That's coming back from the Smiths in 358Win, should be sweet. After this my rifle buying habits are just about over. I have all I need with these two(really only need my R93 but I have a soft spot for CRF Model 70's).
Could do with another R93 stock though, my son wants my 7-08 with his own stock :rolleyes:

Leupolds. That's all I use these days.
I've had those so-called European greats(Swaro). These days just give me a Vx11 2-7x33 & I'm set.

[sharpshooter996]

Two great calibers, one great gun. Nice 338. Now you got my trigger finger itching :D

[Noss]

1958 was a great year WY. 338 Winchester Magnum all the way :thumb:

This is my 338WM, with a 7-08Rem barrel option.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b80/Tez308/R93-33.jpg



Awesome looking firepower there 338 Stalker. :thumb::rockon:


Here is my hunting rifle. My Armalite AR10T .308 Well my paper hunting rifle.. I didn't have a Strider to place in the photo or at one in one piece anyways. :D

http://knifetest.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=173&d=1216301609

[will york]

Here is my hunting rifle. My Armalite AR10T .308 Well my paper hunting rifle..

I just can't imagine how multiple rounds from that thing could go anywhere but in the same hole.

I am beginning to see a correlation between the kinds of people interested in extreme blade performance/testing and those with an appreciation for extreme firearms performance. As Elmer Keith said, "Only accurate rifles are interesting." One might add, "Blades are interesting in direct proportion to the level of Noss testing they survive."

BTW, I really like the cordwrap you did on the CG Busse handle. I find the handle swell in the middle is about right, but the thin parts of the grip can definitely use some beefing up. I bet that thing is comfortably cushy now.

[Noss]

It's very accurate. It's a lot of fun to shoot. I reload for it also. My passion for extreme knives is the same for firearms.

The grips on my CGFBM are just the standards. They are a little small for me but they are very comfortable. I wrapped the cord around it to make them a little bigger. The only thing is that cord will give you some good blisters if your chopping barehanded. I always use my nomex flight gloves when using it outdoors.

[Thecarotidpulse]

Yo Noss,

I'm an idiot when it comes to guns later than the 19th century so you can chuckle at the noob question:

Why is your barrel so much thicker? If this was a MG i'd say it was a cooling system... but it's a rifle (almost a sniper rifle)

When you go shooting with Cameraman what does he use? (BB gun?)
Word

[Noss]

Thecarotidpulse:The barrel is heavy for rigidity to help insure constant accurate shots. A barrel can whip when it is fired it's minor but at longer ranges it can greatly effect accuracy. The barrel on the AR10T is very heavy. The part you can not see under the hand guard is about 1" thick or more. I'm not sure what it is exacly but it's very heavy.

Because of the weight it is not a rifle I want to take with me into the woods on a long hike.

[338 Stalker]

Awesome looking firepower there 338 Stalker. :thumb::rockon:


Here is my hunting rifle. My Armalite AR10T .308 Well my paper hunting rifle.. I didn't have a Strider to place in the photo or at one in one piece anyways. :D

http://knifetest.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=173&d=1216301609

Thanks Noss.

I can dig that, sweet jigga Noss :thumb: .
Have owned 5 308's over the years, but only one left ATM. That's coming back in 358Win. 308Win is a superb cal, I think it's one of the best getting around. Killing power, low recoil & accuracy, it just doesn't get much better!

[Noss]

Thanks Man. I'm going to purchase a new Magpul precision stock for it.

http://www.impactguns.com/store/media/magpul/mp_prs.jpg

[eatingmuchface]

magpul makes osme nice stuff don't they?
I've just seen a few of the things they've made and I would guess they do.
:D

I'm suprised you didn't keep the one with magnum handles noss???

[Noss]

EMF: Yeah they make some awesome stuff. I would have keep the one with the Mags but I had already used the other. So I sold the untouched one..

[338 Stalker]

Thanks Man. I'm going to purchase a new Magpul precision stock for it.

http://www.impactguns.com/store/media/magpul/mp_prs.jpg


I like it. You can custom-fit your LOP & cheek height :rockon:

[Noss]

yeah. I use to have an HK91 with the HKPSG1 stock. It would adjust the same way. I have been looking for something similar for the AR10T. I found it. :D The Magpul looks much better then the PSG1 version due to the screw drive on the adjustments.

[Tac45]

Nice set up Noss. You folks are lucky over there. We can't own semi auto rifles since 1996. Even then they were limited. Anything that had an automatic counterpart was a no no. Military rifles could be owned if you were a member of the military rifle club. But then that was only for semi auto and excluded the AR15 semi auto only. Even a .22 auto is illegal. Professional hunters actively employed in vertibrate pest control can apply to possess a semi auto rifle. In my state though the Ruger Mini 14 still wont get an approval. Others will just that particular gun gets a no no. SUCKS BUTT! Only semi autos left are pistols and the bleeding hearts have their sights set on them too.

Its easier to ask what is legal here rather than what is not. Most things are these days including carrying knives! Only knives carried for work or as part of a uniform or ceremony is ok. Otherwise you have to prove a legitimate reason for carrying it. Determining what is reasonable is a very discretionary and fluctuating set of rules that arn't written. They are truly in the hands of who is making the desicion at the time.

[will york]

Because of the weight it is not a rifle I want to take with me into the woods on a long hike.

Man, I hear that. Pack weight is the whole ballgame for me these days--I spend more hunting time above 10,000' than below, and I loathe to hump one extra ounce I don't have to when climbing steep slopes and scrambling over deadfall and rimrock. I have a Rifles, Inc. rig that weighs under 6.5 lbs. including a 3x9x36 Diavari, and at the end of the day when I sling it over my shoulder for that last climb out of the canyon, it's worth every penny.

[sharpshooter996]

Ok i cant take this any more. my next day off im heading to the range :D Nice setup Noss. Ive always found the 308 AR platform beautiful. Bet she is a real sweat heart.

[Noss]

Tac45: Thanks. It SUCKS about the gun laws over there. I feel for you bro. It makes me sad an angry at the same time. :(:mad:


Will: I hear you about pack weight. It adds up fast. When I do the field tests an go camping I alway hike far from the trail to give me some privacy an security. Blazing a trail an climbing over things with 50 pounds on your back take their toll very fast . You really feel the weight doing this activity.


sharpshooter996: Thanks. I'm going to the pistol range in the morning with cameraman.

[will york]

I'm going to the pistol range in the morning with cameraman.

We need pics! This ought to be good...

[eatingmuchface]

lol!
do they let you wear hockey masks at the range???
:D

[Noss]

We need pics! This ought to be good...

I shot some video.

[will york]

I shot some video.


:thumb::cool::cool: chilly :cool::cool::thumb:

[eatingmuchface]

lol
nice!!!
I can't wait to see this. :D

[LoganSackett]

Yo Noss,

I'm an idiot when it comes to guns later than the 19th century so you can chuckle at the noob question:

Why is your barrel so much thicker? If this was a MG i'd say it was a cooling system... but it's a rifle (almost a sniper rifle)

When you go shooting with Cameraman what does he use? (BB gun?)
Word

Noss is right. The extra steel keeps the barrel from whipping slightly during the shot. It also helps to steady the rifle for long range shots. Believe me, that extra weight helps a LOT when you are trying to keep it steady.

It does help to dissipate heat too, as you mentioned. When the barrel gets hot, it can expand and contract slightly. If this happens, the bullet may or may not get as tight of a seal against the rifling as it ought to. This can affect accuracy. I have heard also that the harmonics from firing a very fast round like the 5.56 NATO or the .308 can cause the barrel to vibrate and that will affect your point of impact at a long distance. The bull barrel reduces the harmonic vibrations.I have never witnessed this personally, so I don't know if it is true.

Finally the heavy barrel allows for a faster follow up shot because the recoil doesn't affect the gun (and consequently your point of aim) as much. This isn't as much of a factor in 5.56mm AR-15 rifles due to the inherent low recoil of the round, but in Noss's .308, the recoil could throw off your aim quite a bit.


Keep in mind that all of these factors are very subtle. You may not notice them until you are shooting at 500 yards or more. However, if your gun is +/- 1 inch at 500yards due to these factors, that can mean the difference between a dead elk or a wounded one. In combat, that could mean life or death for a sniper.

[arnisfighter1]

i'm a big fan of Strider knives. Love the BT model.