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I just go in the CRK project for a destruction test. Here are some photos. It's a nick looking knife.
eatingmuchface
05-25-2008, 11:33 PM
it does look nice.,
what steel is this one?
a2?
can't wait to see the test!
:D
Gman1128
05-26-2008, 02:17 AM
I'm really looking forward to this one! Its a great looking knife. This should be a good test.
I guess Chris Reeve's reputation is really on the line with this one after the results of that last pathetic excuse of a knife that got tested.
If the project goes down quick. There will be hell. I think this on should do better given it's made of A2. It's going to be up to the knife to prove itself in the destruction test.
Gman1128
05-26-2008, 03:22 AM
I don't know much about A2 but I hear its supposed to be pretty tough.
Theres only one way to find out...
Yep. Will find out soon how it holds up.
Tac45
05-26-2008, 05:48 AM
Man that is a nice knife. I ust admit I've always had a liking for hollow handle knives. Don't know why. The hollow handles are not large enough for much useful stuff (I hate those lame little survival packs that seem to be the rage these days. If you think you are going to need gear...carry proper gear). I guess it started with Rambo flicks. The CR seems to be the only one that is solid built. The UC Rambo Knives and Aitor Jungle Kings are like toy knives. Depending on your test I may end up getting one just for fun.
kurodrago
05-26-2008, 09:08 AM
Never sey never, I don't know that sawing teeth they not look good to me. If go down quick, ell the break lose.
miro44one
05-26-2008, 09:34 AM
Cool, sounds like a really nice test, can' t wait.I hope it performs better than the Green Beret, if not...I think the Chris Reeve fans will be likely to kill you Noss:D
amen74
05-26-2008, 02:02 PM
I've always liked that model CRK. When does destruction begin?
slipfirep40
05-26-2008, 02:29 PM
Cool, sounds like a really nice test, can' t wait.I hope it performs better than the Green Beret, if not...I think the Chris Reeve fans will be likely to kill you Noss:D
:mad: CRUCIFY HIM! :mad:
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j182/swiftian/summit/smileyjesus.jpg
amen74: I'm going to start as soon as I can on it. I'm going to test 2 knives this
week. Then 2 next week. then the CRK project.
If this one breaks, I'm keeping my big mouth shut. :p
The Cameraman
06-01-2008, 09:36 AM
just in case it is as crappy as the last CRK, we better start fortifying your house, Noss...a moat, some sandbagged foxholes, a crow's nest for a sniper...you know, just the basics, just in case. Those die hard Chris Reeve's fans are capable of anything. After the test, some of 'em were saying that the knife was great...as long as you send it away for another heat treatment. I know when I shell out three hundred bucks for a knife, I want to spend more money to heat treat it properly...you know, the way it SHOULD HAVE BEEN TREATED THE FIRST TIME.
I AM, THE EFFING CAMERAMAN
jamest
06-06-2008, 08:32 PM
Noss,
Is there a reason you keep picking knives with serrations from CRK? The Projects are the only ones on their hollow handle line that have them.
Sharp
06-06-2008, 08:58 PM
just in case it is as crappy as the last CRK, we better start fortifying your house, Noss...a moat, some sandbagged foxholes, a crow's nest for a sniper...you know, just the basics, just in case. Those die hard Chris Reeve's fans are capable of anything. After the test, some of 'em were saying that the knife was great...as long as you send it away for another heat treatment. I know when I shell out three hundred bucks for a knife, I want to spend more money to heat treat it properly...you know, the way it SHOULD HAVE BEEN TREATED THE FIRST TIME.
I AM, THE EFFING CAMERAMAN
And also including:
Everyone from the Forums,
50 Mini-guns,
50 AS-50s
50 FBMs
50 Busse AK-47s
50 LAWs
50 MIRVs
50 FOBS
50 warheads.
You know, just in case. :D
No need for all that. Just build a big wall with small gaps in it. When they try to use their knives to climb, they'll just fall and take themselves out of the attack.
slipfirep40
06-06-2008, 09:22 PM
No need for all that. Just build a big wall with small gaps in it. When they try to use their knives to climb, they'll just fall and take themselves out of the attack.
ROFL:D:D:D:D
Sharp
06-06-2008, 10:25 PM
AHAHAHAHA. Though, I still want to use my fbm :p
jamest: Welcome to the forum. No there is no special reason. After the Green Beret test I was contacted by CRK. They said they would like the knife back to look at an
they would replace it under warranty. I agreed an they sent me a new one. I traded a dealer the new GB for a new Project. The project was what he had.
jamest
06-07-2008, 01:30 AM
Noss,
I just think to really test a CRK A2 knife; you should use something that doesn't have serrations. I don't know much about knives but I thought serrations created stress points and with your harsh test, that would be the first place I bet it breaks. I'd like to see you test one of their 9" A2 knives. I'm partial to the Shadow I, but any would do. Your videos are entertaining. I’d like to see you destroy something that would have less of a reason to fail. And by the way, just so there is no ambiguity about my recent post and registration, I learned about your site on the CRK area of Blade Forums. and I'm not a hater, just curious.
Serrations are part of the knife. I have tested other knives with serrations that didn't break at the serrations. They may or may not lead to a failure. The SOG Seal 2000 had no problem with having serrations. The Red six predator had a saw and I couldn't get a failure hammering directly on top of it. I don't think they were a problem on the Gerber LMF II. I'll have to check on this.
I need to refresh my memory on some other knives.
Noss,
When the test will be posted on-line?
slipfirep40
06-10-2008, 03:10 PM
What are you waiting on to post it? An out of country safe house? Body armour? Trading in your truck for an APC? :confused:
I'm working on it. I just got caught up with some stuff an didn't have the time.
I'm getting ready to upload the CRK Project II test. I got behind with everything else.
It should be online by the morning if there are no problems.
eatingmuchface
06-16-2008, 11:36 PM
yes!
i'm very excited to see this test!
:D
Macgregor
06-17-2008, 02:36 AM
Cant wait.
I have wondered if their a2 is any thougher.
zenlifter
04-25-2009, 03:09 PM
FINALLY, these tests have shown enough about CR knives to fire up this rumor.
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?p=2923354
"I spoke with Chris's wife this afternoon, and she explained why the "One Piece" knifes were going to no longer be made. First, his supplier of the A2 blanks back in South Africa is retiring, and another source is not available. Second, Chris has been making these a LONG time, and he is ready to devote time to other projects.
Third, they are out of Shadow IV's, and expect to be able to make some around October, when the possibly last shipment of A2 blanks will arrive."
So kids you better hurry up and run out there and get yours before they are all gone!!! :rolleyes:
zenlifter
04-25-2009, 03:11 PM
And Fourth..that guy on knifetests.com showed how fragile and overpriced they are.
culpeper
04-26-2009, 12:21 AM
"Who will survive and what will be left of them"!!!!
LOL !! I See some are blaming me for them being discontinued. This is not the case but I think it's funny the CRK cry babies are blaming me for this. These are some of the same people that say I took it easy on the Busse knives. :rolleyes: Now they must not have watched the Busse D-tests since they rank at the top of the KT.com brutality scale. :eek::D
I must say out of all the crying fanboys. The CRK groupies are the most pathetic of the bunch.
Just a few refresher Busse videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNerD3edtO4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Qq5H4FYpT8
culpeper
04-27-2009, 09:06 AM
Cry babies is right. And they want Green Beret quality gear. Pft!
Boots
05-02-2009, 02:59 PM
Noss proved that they are not that tough, I think they should suck it up. There is nothing they can do, CRK knives are not that tough.
They really aren't tough at all. when I started all of this I really didn't know what tough meant for the most part. I remember the first knife tested the Ka-bar heavy bowie and when I first hit the knife with the hammer. I had never done this before with any knife. Was the knife going to fall apart when it was pounded with the steel hammer ? I was unsure and was really under the assumption the knife would break easy. If you read all the crap on the forums this is what many are lead to believe. However the Ka-bar didn't break and took a lot of punishment before I finally destroyed it. Now after all the knives I have beat the hell out I now know this is not a golden rule about breaking knives easy with hammer hits on the spine. About 95 percent of the knives take it without failure and break during other portions of the tests. I no longer believe much I read on forums anymore either and from the supposed experts that cut tomatoes with their over built heavy knives and declare them tough.:D Experience has shown me other wise and I have hours upon hours of video evidence to back it all up. :thumb: Many times the old 3lb hammer is not enough to break a knife. So the hammer debate will continue until the end of time I suppose but at least I'm not blind to it anymore.
If you want to find out how tough a knife is. Do something tough with it.
will york
05-05-2009, 03:10 PM
If you want to find out how tough a knife is. Do something tough with it.
Now THAT'S worth repeating.
:cool: :cool: :cool:
would be pretty funny if you started each d test by making a sandwich!
Will Simple isn't it. :D
xxo: Coming up next on Knife Tests.com what knife is the toughest at making PB&J sandwiches. :eek: Watch these test's only if you can stomach the carnage your favorite knife will endure. :eek: http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb93/Noss4/surprise.gif
Who will survive and what will be left of them ? :D
pbj is for whimps, how bout peanutbutter and thin sliced balony with some whipped cream and sliced tomatoes on top? Only the toughest knives could handle that. :eek:
seriouly, slicing some stuff for a sandwich along with the apple test would be awsome :rockon:
The Cameraman
05-06-2009, 09:38 AM
yeah, Noss, we'll start off with you making sandwiches, then move into the more difficult and strenuous casseroles. We'll get you a "Kill the Cook" apron, and maybe install some track lighting. You'll be a star man!!! And that's what you've always wanted, thats why you post ALLL your personal information all over the net, because after all, its all about you. YOU'RE THE STAR! Maybe you can even do some cross-promotional stuff with Phaggot Phil, and do some guest appearances on his show. Ofcourse, with all this entertainment, they'll be little room for knife testing. But, hey, that's alright, we'll just make it a fanboy site. We won't even use the knives during prep for the cooking, we'll use some cheapies for that. We'll just keep the knife in front of you, center stage, and have an occasional 360 degree shot of it while we all just oooohhhh and ahhhhhh over its curves. Get started on the track lighting, I'll stop by later to help you make the banner for the background.
AND NOW, WE WILL ADD THE TOMATOES, THE EFFING CAMERAMAN
will york
05-06-2009, 09:43 AM
I'd go with a B-L-T laminate and possibly a mayo substrate.
...now you guys are making me hungry.
Noss should invite Phil to run his own philophy/tactical martialist subforum...it would be a hoot with all of Phil's rants adout Noss being unfair and unscientific along with being some mad knife scientist from Nova Scotia. sure Phil would probably ban everyone and delete thier posts....would still be funny!
Will: Cool new sig line. :thumb::D
xxo: Yeah we will all be banned from here in about 3 days. :eek: Free speech is not part of Phil s philosophy. As soon as someone disagrees with him he will say he is being insulted and ban you.
will york
05-08-2009, 06:43 PM
Will: Cool new sig line.
pretty much sums it all up for me. :thumb: :D
thanks!
jankerson
08-13-2009, 11:07 AM
They are not going to let it die, the CR fan club seems pretty pathetic to me.
Is it still going on ? The last time I looked at the thread on blade forums it was dead. Or did they start a new one ?
jankerson
08-13-2009, 11:09 PM
Is it still going on ? The last time I looked at the thread on blade forums it was dead. Or did they start a new one ?
No someone brought it back, they started crying again, fan boys are pathetic. LOL
This one:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=660179
And they are really starting to piss me off on the Spyderco crap. :rolleyes:
Okay. Back from the dead. I'll go read it. fan-boys can be annoying at times. :D
jankerson
08-13-2009, 11:30 PM
Okay. Back from the dead. I'll go read it. fan-boys can be annoying at times. :D
Yeah and Spyderco this and that almost every thread.... It's like they work for them or something. :headbang:
It's getting sickening... :mad: :headbang:
It's like the same ones jump on every thread and post Spyderco Military.... AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH........ :headbang::mad:
One was looking for a super strong folder approaching a fixed blade and some freaking moron suggested this little tiny Spyderco POS..... GOD.... Please Help me...... :headbang::headbang::headbang:
I just read the rest of the thread. Fun reading the back and forth. :thumb::D
There are many that have that train of thought that folders can do the same tough jobs as a fixed blade. This is what they own so this is what they defend and promote.
My RAO is one over built folder but it's not going to survive the same punishment as a tough fixed blade without something bending or giving out. It's already broken to begin with being made of multiple parts. That's just the way it is. I really need to test some folders like the fixed blades just so some people can see the difference. They will scream about it but this in nothing new.
jankerson
08-14-2009, 07:09 AM
True, they have never owned a fixed blade so they really don't understand the differences in strength between the two. But then most of them have never really used their knives at all and they just spout off crap because that's the thing to do.
That RAO is a beast of a knife, but it won't hold up like a good folder will as you said.
dingyu1980
08-14-2009, 09:02 AM
I just read the rest of the thread. Fun reading the back and forth. :thumb::D
There are many that have that train of thought that folders can do the same tough jobs as a fixed blade. This is what they own so this is what they defend and promote.
My RAO is one over built folder but it's not going to survive the same punishment as a tough fixed blade without something bending or giving out. It's already broken to begin with being made of multiple parts. That's just the way it is. I really need to test some folders like the fixed blades just so some people can see the difference. They will scream about it but this in nothing new.
creative! it is a brain storm:D:D:D
culpeper
08-14-2009, 10:37 AM
I've heard some horror stories from the owner of Taylor Brands about people trying to use a folder like a fixed blade. Lots of missing digits....:D
Noss, you would have to come up with a whole new set of tests to D-Test folders. I think the fixed blade tests can be used by viewers to decide if a certain type of steel will be good for a folder. For the user, common sense should prevail. Folders are not fixed blades knives and are not a solution for fixed blade knives. Folders are a completely different animal.
jankerson
08-14-2009, 10:43 AM
I've heard some horror stories from the owner of Taylor Brands about people trying to use a folder like a fixed blade. Lots of missing digits....:D
Noss, you would have to come up with a whole new set of tests to D-Test folders. I think the fixed blade tests can be used by viewers to decide if a certain type of steel will be good for a folder. For the user, common sense should prevail. Folders are not fixed blades knives and are not a solution for fixed blade knives. Folders are a completely different animal.
Try going over to the General section on BF and saying that. LOL
Be prepared for a bunch of Spyderco fan boys posting about how strong they are. :rolleyes:
culpeper
08-14-2009, 06:07 PM
I'm on restriction at BF...:p
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jankerson
08-14-2009, 06:11 PM
Yeah that would do it. LOL
I've heard some horror stories from the owner of Taylor Brands about people trying to use a folder like a fixed blade. Lots of missing digits....:D
Noss, you would have to come up with a whole new set of tests to D-Test folders. I think the fixed blade tests can be used by viewers to decide if a certain type of steel will be good for a folder. For the user, common sense should prevail. Folders are not fixed blades knives and are not a solution for fixed blade knives. Folders are a completely different animal.
I know. I would like to put a few Folders that are overbuilt and advertised for hard use through the same tests as the fixed blades for the hell of it.
jankerson
08-15-2009, 09:01 AM
I know. I would like to put a few Folders that are overbuilt and advertised for hard use through the same tests as the fixed blades for the hell of it.
Yeah like the Spyderco Military...... ROFL!!!!!!!!!
And make sure to post it in General over on BF. :thumb:
I can hear the crying now. :D
miro44one
08-15-2009, 03:03 PM
Or the Sebenza...haha the Chris Reeve fans would kill you:D
jankerson
08-16-2009, 08:46 AM
They Already want to. :D
Ah don't worry about them, how tough can they be from Troop 2 assigned to Starbucks. ROFL
The closest any of them ever got to the Military was what was on TV.
Uniform is Tee Shirt with some tactical slogan on it, Cap on backwards, Camo cargo shorts and Flip Flops, thinking they are looking cool trying to impress the chicks. LOL
Yeah like the Spyderco Military...... ROFL!!!!!!!!!
And make sure to post it in General over on BF. :thumb:
I can hear the crying now. :D
I don't see why you are using Spyderco and Spyderco customers as an example. Spydero rarely promotes there knives on the basis of extreme strength and toughness the way that some others do. Spyderco specializes in mostly smaller folder that are promoted mainly on the basis of design, blade steel and ergonomics....not on being able to be stabbed through car doors, hammered through carriage bolts or bent in a vise.
I am a big Spyderco fan myself, I have owned and used a bunch of other knives but Spyderco knives fit my needs best. I don't use folders for anything much more strenuous than cutting but Spyderco knives have never let me down. I like them because they carry well, are fast opening, have reliable locks, cut and hold an edge very well and are backed by top notch customer service from a highly reputable company.
I don't think Spyderco knives would do any better than comparable knives of similar construction from other knife companies, as a Spyderco "fanboy" I wouldn't be at all upset if Noss destruction tested a Spyderco, in fact I would very much like to see it and how Spydercos compare to some other brands in this respect.
If you want to test one of the tougher Spyderco knives the Military is not it it. The Military has a tin blade profile, only partial liners for light weight and a liner lock. I think the Chinook would hold up better.
jankerson
08-16-2009, 01:36 PM
I don't see why you are using Spyderco and Spyderco customers as an example. Spydero rarely promotes there knives on the basis of extreme strength and toughness the way that some others do. Spyderco specializes in mostly smaller folder that are promoted mainly on the basis of design, blade steel and ergonomics....not on being able to be stabbed through car doors, hammered through carriage bolts or bent in a vise.
I am a big Spyderco fan myself, I have owned and used a bunch of other knives but Spyderco knives fit my needs best. I don't use folders for anything much more strenuous than cutting but Spyderco knives have never let me down. I like them because they carry well, are fast opening, have reliable locks, cut and hold an edge very well and are backed by top notch customer service from a highly reputable company.
I don't think Spyderco knives would do any better than comparable knives of similar construction from other knife companies, as a Spyderco "fanboy" I wouldn't be at all upset if Noss destruction tested a Spyderco, in fact I would very much like to see it and how Spydercos compare to some other brands in this respect.
If you want to test one of the tougher Spyderco knives the Military is not it it. The Military has a tin blade profile, only partial liners for light weight and a liner lock. I think the Chinook would hold up better.
You haven't been over to BF lately then, the Fan Boys recommend them for everything, the Spyderco Military is the miracle knife, it can cut through cars, chop down a Forrest, split wood, build a log cabin and it's stronger and better than all other knives. It's the perfect knife for everything from what I have been reading. PLEASE :rolleyes:
I know better that that, it's thin, wrong blade profile for heavy use and way too light and not built for heavy use. When we tell them that they get all bent out of shape. ;)
culpeper
08-16-2009, 01:57 PM
Have you guys seen the new Ontario XM-1 folders out of Italy. I got one for an infantry engineer in Afghanistan. This knife rocks the socks off Spyderco shit for the price.
xxo: No offense.
http://www.ontarioknife.com/images/images/xmsales-sheet.jpg
It just occurred to me that if we don't have a problem with the brand of flatware we use to eat with at any ol' restaurant than we really shouldn't be swearing by one particular brand of knife as well. Especially, if that particular brand is all hype like the Chris Reeve "GREEN BERET". In other words, I really don't think that is why we are here and I think we can all agree on that. Personally, I believe brand loyalty stifles entrepreneurship. I want a good knife. Not the best knife money can buy. One company comes to mind, Sanrenmu. A $3 knife as good as a $100 Al Mar. I have several of these Chinese knives now. There are a few reviews on youtube. Just an example. Not a promotion...:)
EDIT: The problem with BF is their economic platform for the most part. The company language over there is to protect select portions of the industry. Example. we have one member instantly banned @BF for posting a link to a Sanrenmu page. Later, the same BF moderator had to eat crow when a couple of established members mentioned this same knife company. And that is no joke. Did this moderator go back and make things right with our member? Hell no!
BTW, it wasn't me. It was another member of KnifeTest.
...
You haven't been over to BF lately then, the Fan Boys recommend them for everything, the Spyderco Military is the miracle knife, it can cut through cars, chop down a Forrest, split wood, build a log cabin and it's stronger and better than all other knives. It's the perfect knife for everything from what I have been reading. PLEASE :rolleyes:
Must have missed that, do you have any links?
jankerson
08-16-2009, 02:03 PM
Must have missed that, do you have any links?
Here you go.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=668318
Read the whole thread it's really funny, there are more but one of the other members posted quotes in this thread just from one member alone. There are a lot of threads in General, every time someones asks for a folding knife no matter what it's for here the Spyderco fan boys come. And a lot of them are for heavy use folding knives.
wildjim
08-16-2009, 02:09 PM
Here you go.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=668318
Read the whole thread it's really funny, there are more but one of the other members posted quotes in this thread just from one member alone. There are a lot of threads in General, every time someones asks for a folding knife no matter what it's for here the Spyderco fan boys come. And a lot of them are for heavy use folding knives.
I noticed that too its always Spyderco or Kershaw for everything. I bought a Kershaw and returned it the next day. I do not like the average style of the Kershaw or Spyderco knives.
"Eat shit, 50 million flies can't be wrong" ; )
jankerson
08-16-2009, 02:16 PM
I noticed that too its always Spyderco or Kershaw for everything. I bought a Kershaw and returned it the next day. I do not like the average style of the Kershaw or Spyderco knives.
"Eat shit, 50 million flies can't be wrong" ; )
I really never liked Spyderco at all, I don't like the blade profile of 99% of their knives. I have owned 5 Spydercos and hated every one of them, I feel they are over hyped in general. They are fine for what most people really do with their knives (Mall Ninja stuff), but if one is going to put a knife to work then look someplace else as there are usually better options IMO.
Kershaw does have some good models, their high end models are good.
I am more of a fixed blade guy so I don't like weak little folding knives in general, I like them with some weight and beef and strong blades.
So you guys think I shouldnt say anything about my Benchmade Ares out cutting my Generation 3 Spyderco Delica? This makes me want to punch babies. Spyderco knives are known for their thin edges, high sharpness, and good edgeholding. They are not marketed as unusually tough. From the pictures, the ZT-300 looks like it would cut fine. It has a high grind on a relatively wide blade. But, if you lay one next to a Military, the ZT is obviously stronger.
Ankerson, what do you define as loosening up? My Delica has developed some slight blade play, but for lock backs, I expect this to happen no matter how well built they are.
jankerson
08-16-2009, 03:06 PM
So you guys think I shouldnt say anything about my Benchmade Ares out cutting my Generation 3 Spyderco Delica? This makes me want to punch babies. Spyderco knives are known for their thin edges, high sharpness, and good edgeholding. They are not marketed as unusually tough. From the pictures, the ZT-300 looks like it would cut fine. It has a high grind on a relatively wide blade. But, if you lay one next to a Military, the ZT is obviously stronger.
Ankerson, what do you define as loosening up? My Delica has developed some slight blade play, but for lock backs, I expect this to happen no matter how well built they are.
I had side to side and up and down play in both of them, and it happened very quick too if I remember correctly. I have a CS Voyager 4" that I chopped up stuff with etc that has no play at all in it. And that's just a little Voyager with no liners.
Some will develop a little play over time, the better ones will take longer though.
Here you go.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=668318
Read the whole thread it's really funny, there are more but one of the other members posted quotes in this thread just from one member alone. There are a lot of threads in General, every time someones asks for a folding knife no matter what it's for here the Spyderco fan boys come. And a lot of them are for heavy use folding knives.
I read through the whole thread and didn't see where anyone was claiming that "it can cut through cars, chop down a Forrest, split wood, build a log cabin and it's stronger and better than all other knives." I only saw where you and a few others tried to make it seem that they thought that when all they were saying was that they liked the Military and were recomending it over the ZT.
Boils down to JoshK likes the Military and you don't, big deal. We get that.
jankerson
08-16-2009, 05:12 PM
I read through the whole thread and didn't see where anyone was claiming that "it can cut through cars, chop down a Forrest, split wood, build a log cabin and it's stronger and better than all other knives." I only saw where you and a few others tried to make it seem that they thought that when all they were saying was that they liked the Military and were recomending it over the ZT.
Boils down to JoshK likes the Military and you don't, big deal. We get that.
You have to read through the general forum more and see how some knives are recommended. :)
I have a Spyderco endura one of the very few folders I own. I originally bought it as a back up dive knife. It fits well in a pocket on my BC and has a great set of very sharp serrations needed on a dive knife. I EDC it now along with two other knives. It's served me well over the years. It's not what I would call a hard use folder by any means. Many on blade forums do recommend them as hard use tough folders. Look at "What are the toughest folder" threads and you will see Spydercos recommended a lot as the end all hard use folders. These threads are countless there.
Folders are a whole new ball game but many people do think they can perform like a solid fixed blade. This is all over blade forums.
Not sure why they worry about how tough they are since knives are only for cutting.:p:D But they sure do get upset about the subject when they are challenged on it.
jankerson
08-17-2009, 08:05 AM
I have a Spyderco endura one of the very few folders I own. I originally bought it as a back up dive knife. It fits well in a pocket on my BC and has a great set of very sharp serrations needed on a dive knife. I EDC it now along with two other knives. It's served me well over the years. It's not what I would call a hard use folder by any means. Many on blade forums do recommend them as hard use tough folders. Look at "What are the toughest folder" threads and you will see Spydercos recommended a lot as the end all hard use folders. These threads are countless there.
Folders are a whole new ball game but many people do think they can perform like a solid fixed blade. This is all over blade forums.
Not sure why they worry about how tough they are since knives are only for cutting.:p:D But they sure do get upset about the subject when they are challenged on it.
Yeah they are made for cutting. LOL :D
But when I point that out they get all upset, now THEY can say it and it's fine though.... :rolleyes:
miro44one
08-17-2009, 04:04 PM
I personally like Spyderco knives alot. Not every model of course, but most of them. Of course they are not as tough as..say...a ZT or ER or similar. But they are tough enough for what I use a folding knife for, and they feel very comfortable, are light weight, easy to carry, have useful blade shapes foe EDC uses, nice steel, the hole (which I prefer to most thumbstuds), and easy to operate and reliable locks.
Of course I wouldn' t recommend most Spydercos if someone was looking for a tough knife since there are definately tougher folders out there. So I wouldn' t really call myself a Spyderco "Fan" but I do think they make excellent knives for what i use folding knives for.
This is all a matter of personal opinion of course, and I really don' t want to stirr any kind of trouble here...like we already have on BF...:rolleyes:
jankerson
08-17-2009, 05:16 PM
I personally like Spyderco knives alot. Not every model of course, but most of them. Of course they are not as tough as..say...a ZT or ER or similar. But they are tough enough for what I use a folding knife for, and they feel very comfortable, are light weight, easy to carry, have useful blade shapes foe EDC uses, nice steel, the hole (which I prefer to most thumbstuds), and easy to operate and reliable locks.
Of course I wouldn' t recommend most Spydercos if someone was looking for a tough knife since there are definately tougher folders out there. So I wouldn' t really call myself a Spyderco "Fan" but I do think they make excellent knives for what i use folding knives for.
This is all a matter of personal opinion of course, and I really don' t want to stirr any kind of trouble here...like we already have on BF...:rolleyes:
Well you speak like you have common sense and are in touch with reality. :thumb: :D
wildjim
08-20-2009, 08:56 AM
There is a Poll on BladeForums that's interesting?
Currently the most common brands in the Poll are Kershaw and SpyderCo.
Is the popularity a result of quality or fanboyism?
I bought a $50 Kershaw and returned it the next day. There wasn't anything wrong with it, rather it was just average and not worth $50 to me.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=669240
jankerson
08-20-2009, 09:35 AM
Couldn't really say, you would have to talk to every single person to possibly get an idea I would think.
I am very selective on the knives I buy personally and I don't lean towards any one Company in general, but I do favor the ones who make strong knives and test them.
wildjim
08-22-2009, 01:16 PM
Yet another Poll of best production folder.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=669622
It seems the sebenza is it and spyderco second.
I don't believe the Poll, too much fanboyism.
The truth is many people in the world own and use more folders that are not Spyderco or CRK. The crowd on the forums only makes up a very small percentage of knife users in the world. I know plenty of people that carry a knife on them that aren't die hard knife nuts and I would bet money most of them have never even heard of these makers. I see more people with cheaper no name knifes in the world than any of these mega brands. They use what they have and they never think twice about it. If I were to suggest a folder that cost 400 bucks they would think I'm nuts.
Out in the world one can use a 10 dollar folder without being discriminated against. In the forums many will shit on a person for presenting his 10 dollar folder to the crowd or get banned for it like one of our members did. :thumbdwn: :jerkit:
jankerson
08-23-2009, 06:17 AM
Before I went in the Military back in 1982 I got by with a Buck 110, a few slip joints and Case fixed blade that I had for years.
I would bet money that most of the people who voted for the CRK never saw one in person, that is a $400 knife and judging by how most of them post in the forums I really doubt more than a handful of them own one. :jerkit:
I would also be that most of the people who voted for the Spyderco Military never used one even if they do own for more than picking their fingernails.
There is a lot of the OOOOOOH AHHHHHHH OOOOOOOOOOH AHHHHHHH crowd there. Most of the knives they get all excited about are pretty much mall ninja stuff or stuff they would never buy because it cost too much. :jerkit:
Then they hate Cold Steel and Strider that make some of the best knives out there and most of them never saw any of them either except in pictures. :jerkit:
I really believe most of them own $50 blades, maybe one or two of them. :rolleyes:
There are some who really do own some nice blades, but they are the minority in the General section from the way they seem to post. ;)
What gets me most of the time is people who say they want a knife to do something and you recommend a few that really will do what they want and they balk at the price or the Company.
wildjim
08-23-2009, 10:00 AM
The truth is many people in the world own and use more folders that are not Spyderco or CRK. The crowd on the forums only makes up a very small percentage of knife users in the world. I know plenty of people that carry a knife on them that aren't die hard knife nuts and I would bet money most of them have never even heard of these makers. I see more people with cheaper no name knifes in the world than any of these mega brands. They use what they have and they never think twice about it. If I were to suggest a folder that cost 400 bucks they would think I'm nuts.
Out in the world one can use a 10 dollar folder without being discriminated against. In the forums many will shit on a person for presenting his 10 dollar folder to the crowd or get banned for it like one of our members did. :thumbdwn: :jerkit:
Don't I know?
Actually it was two forums for just being enthusiastic about Sanrenmu knives. Also there was a disagreement between me and Mike Stewfart.
But mention Sanrenmu on BladeForums and you'll likely be banned as a Chinese knife spammer a sacrifice to save another $400 for Chris Reeve.
Anyway they do have a thread of interest to me about CPM M4 steel which evolved into commentary from BladeSports competitors.
Its too bad the thread is not here as its so much better here with group of members with common sense and enough respect for one another to just let each other be who we are.
jankerson
08-23-2009, 12:10 PM
Personally if I was going to spend $400+ on a folder it would be a Strider not a CR. ;)
wildjim
08-23-2009, 01:57 PM
Personally if I was going to spend $400+ on a folder it would be a Strider not a CR. ;)
I just can't do $400 for knife and certainly not a folder with stubble of blade pivoting on a pin. If it were gold and or diamond studded I could see the cost. But if you truely have the means for ornate things beyond its utility function then I guess it has a place just not for me.
jankerson
08-23-2009, 04:22 PM
I just can't do $400 for knife and certainly not a folder with stubble of blade pivoting on a pin. If it were gold and or diamond studded I could see the cost. But if you truely have the means for ornate things beyond its utility function then I guess it has a place just not for me.
You notice I said IF. LOL ;)
Not likely I would really spend that much on a folding knife.
kurodrago
08-24-2009, 07:35 AM
I have not many knife in my collation....all my knive are to be use knive, without exception.
And yes I have few cheapo and I'M proud of it:rockon: Me when I feel in love with one knife in particular I buy it and of the story! I don't give shit about price... even more about prejudice of people!
An old greek philosopher once said {When you name something that something become alive, it like you give to that thing a soul}:)
All my knive own a name:D
This photo says it all. :D
http://knifetest.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=520&d=1251177490
kurodrago
08-25-2009, 05:11 AM
Jesus Christ Superstar :Dwho is that, Spark?
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repeat, ( not eat ):D:D:D:D
jankerson
08-25-2009, 07:58 AM
This photo says it all. :D
http://knifetest.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=520&d=1251177490
Oh that is funny..... :thumb::D
miro44one
08-25-2009, 10:04 AM
Phil...??:D
wildjim
08-25-2009, 11:42 AM
This photo says it all. :D
http://knifetest.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=520&d=1251177490
I lost my lunch !
That thing is buck wild naked !
If that's a BF member I must know who it is?
What kind of knife is it?
jankerson
08-25-2009, 11:45 AM
It's one of those Rambo Movie knives I think.
LOL ! :D
The photo was posted on blade forums. I'm not sure who made it but they nailed it.
Wildjim: The knife is the Rambo I from First Blood. The guy in the photo is probably one of the jack offs who spends every hour of his life posting in pirates cove on blade forums. There is little knife content in there. It's mainly just a "who is bullying me on the playground today" :jerkit: section of the forum.
culpeper
08-26-2009, 09:05 AM
It's a moderator. He can't get the keyboard out. All he does it ban people by mouse. Mighty Mouse?
wildjim
08-26-2009, 09:53 AM
LOL ! :D
The photo was posted on blade forums. I'm not sure who made it but they nailed it.
Wildjim: The knife is the Rambo I from First Blood. The guy in the photo is probably one of the jack offs who spends every hour of his life posting in pirates cove on blade forums. There is little knife content in there. It's mainly just a "who is bullying me on the playground today" :jerkit: section of the forum.
I wonder how much photoshop was used? The guy's hair appears dyed in comparison to his beard, fortunately I can't see anything else to compare the hair color : )
That is something that requires a photo as its indescribable and unbelievable : )
In a very distorted manner the guy resembles Santa Claus, children should not see that photo.
It's a moderator. He can't get the keyboard out. All he does it ban people by mouse. Mighty Mouse?
LOL. I'm sure it is one of them. :D The ones with 40 thousand plus posts can't be very active in life.
wildjim: I guess we now know what Santa does on his days off. :D
dingyu1980
08-31-2009, 02:22 AM
Or the Sebenza...haha the Chris Reeve fans would kill you:D
from the point of toughness , i gusse the famous CR Sebenza is not a good one!
noss can make a comparision with SANRENMU 710, a 5 buck one! (or some cheap ones like buck folder knives.)
they are very very similar!:D:D:D my local dude said that , 710 is a copy of that knife.
yes, i can hear the crying of the CR fans.
From toughness stand point. I would choose a cheaper folder for extreme hard use, since It would be likely to break compared to a fixed blade. I won't be out much money if I break a Douk Douk. My RAO is tough but I won't get as radical with it as I would a CS GI tanto.
dingyu1980
08-31-2009, 11:03 PM
man, you are right +1
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