When the chips are down, what would you pack?

[338 Stalker]

OK lads, I'm not exactly sure whether this discussion has been done before, & since I'm a lazy bastard I didn't check ;) . So here goes anyway.

Lets talk about the knife you would take away if you where heading bush for days on end. Remembering that you will have your trusty rifle to kill your food(after your small rations pack runs dry) & security. You have also packed the BASIC gear needed to sleep, eat, stay warm etc. You get my point.

So what's your survival/do it all, from quarter game into steaks :rolleyes: , guts fish(after you shoot them :D . Or just pack a small handline), skin rabbits, chop & baton your firewood & generally keep you out of the shit if needed.
So lets here it. One knife!(No "dream" knives, keep it factory or your pet custom).

PS-Yes, you have access to fresh drinking water.

[xxo]

a SOG Hunter Revolver would be great for fish and game plus it has nice built in wood saw.

[Shaolin]

I would go with the Mini Uncle Mojo, but I really have no experience in this stuff.

[338 Stalker]

As most here would of probably guessed, I would pack my Scrapper 6 ATM. But I dare say the Skinny ASH-1 will be just as good, if not better! Especially after seeing it put to work here :thumb: . So I will stick my neck out & say, even before I get it. Skinny ASH-1.

[kiah]

Don't know if it counts, but for a few days stay in the woods with only one blade, I'd take my Fiskars 14" over any knife in existence.

[taurn7]

I would take my RC4 if there is a lot of woods, or my machete if there's not. Unless I'm in the mood, I probably won't chop much.

[Shaolin]

I would take my RC4 if there is a lot of woods, or my machete if there's not. Unless I'm in the mood, I probably won't chop much.


The RC-4 is a great knive. I have a RC-3 and RC-6. Waiting to get a RC-4, IZULA, and maybe a SERE.

[Macgregor]

One knife?
That would be the Busse Comp Edge Hell Razor, or my old faithful Scrap Yard Tan Yard Guard.
Would I take a rifle?
No I would take my bow.

[338 Stalker]

Would I take a rifle? No I would take my bow.

A bow hey, hmmmm I like it. Solid choices in knives as well.

[Macgregor]

Think about it; bows are light(at least my traditional recurve is), as long as you are smart with your arrows you will never run out, you don't have to clean it, no parts to really break, and they are quiet so you wont be drawing baddie or sheeple attention in a SHTF scenario.

[338 Stalker]

I agree. Bows are a superb idea for the man that wants to keep things real basic & simple. I plan on moving into bows in the next few years, but ATM I'm having a great time slaying the local wildlife with my 338 ;)
A have a new Model 70 Pre-64 that I plan on using next year. If there was two bolt action rifles that has KISS written all over them. It would be the CRF(controlled round feed) Model 70 & Mauser 98. But if one really wants to have the very basic in a rifle, it would be without doubt the single shot. Ruger make a superb version, it's soooooo simple it's ingenious!

[Macgregor]

I would really like a rifle with a Mauser action.

What kind of bow you looking at?

[338 Stalker]

I would really like a rifle with a Mauser action.

What kind of bow you looking at?

Would not have a clue ATM. I'm probably a few years off a bow. What do you recommend?

PS-Get yourself a Pre-64 Model 70, it's classic M98 with a couple of improvements :eek:. Did I just say the M98 wasn't perfect. IMO it isn't, although damn close.
But just give me a CRF Model 70/Pre-64 any day of the week. And make it between 1950-60 as well ;)

[nullack]

Improvised silencers and subsonic ammo reduce most rifles report very effectively. That is those that dont have a muzzle break.

A bow is seriously limited compared to a rifle. Terminal ballistics are not even comparable for any bow to most centrefire rifles. As too, effective range. Most importantly, accuracy where well designed centrefire rifles can shoot 0.5 MOA. No experienced hunter could seriously claim it is easier to hunt with a bow than a rifle.

Ive owned compound bows in the past and its a myth that arrows can be reused. Sometimes the arrow gets damaged and your lucky to be able to reuse the arrow head only. Especially the carbon fibre or alumnium arrows.

I would take an accurised bolt action .308 as it has good range ability but above all good barrell life with being able to do over 10 000 rounds with top accuracy and maybe 50 000 rounds if its looked after. Most others like the .338 lapua wont do over 1000 rounds before needing a new barrel which in a situation where society has gone feral is going to be tricky!

A luxury would be a 12 gauge pump action shotgun that can shoot 3.5" shells with screw in chokes. The rifle for long range, the shotty for short range. A shotgun is highly versatile with being able to take rats all the way through to large game. I would use magnum 1# buck shells and some lighter shot shells. A quality shotgun can last a lifetime without wearing out.

[Noss]

It would be one of my Busse FBM's or a knife with a 10" plus blade. I do everything with a big knife in the field. I just feel naked outdoors without a big blade. I can not give in to the small knife only theory. For me bigger is better. :thumb:

[Gman1128]

Ideally I would take my FFBM and a small, dedicated skinning knife, but if I could only take one it would be a Swamp Rat Chopweiler. I think it would be ideal for all-around use.

I would deffinately take a rifle however. With a bow, your range is just too limited (plus I don't have much experience with a bow)

[Macgregor]

Would not have a clue ATM. I'm probably a few years off a bow. What do you recommend?

PS-Get yourself a Pre-64 Model 70, it's classic M98 with a couple of improvements :eek:. Did I just say the M98 wasn't perfect. IMO it isn't, although damn close.
But just give me a CRF Model 70/Pre-64 any day of the week. And make it between 1950-60 as well ;)

I shoot one of these.
http://www.3riversarchery.com/Product.asp?c=44&s=155&p=200&i=20861X
Except mine was made in 1968.

[Man of Iron]

Shot with recurve bows more than a year back, if you ain't using compound bows it requires a lot of force to maintain the tention, comparing to the compound, which allows you all the time you need to aim after it's pulled.

Besides, in the open, there're loads of variables that might infuence the arrow, and many time when you are hunting you don't have the luxury of the testing shot...

Heard the ranchers in Texas are paid so the hunters can rid the wild hogs for them, with guns or bows, and they need to pay extra to keep the meat.

[sharpshooter996]

Great thread, Thanks for starting this one 338.

The two knives I would want to be with are my Fallkniven A2, and H1.

The A2 will take care of fire prep, shelter building and heck even defense.

The H1 will be the more used tool. Perfect for food prep, bushcraft, and any other small cutting task.

Both of these knives will be weather proof, durable and able to be resharpened afield with ease.


http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc352/sharpshooter996/IMG_7602-1.jpg

[striker071]

OK wait a minuite......wasnt it one knife.... sharpshooter..... only can have one.... just kidding... need a knife htat can do all those tasks shouldnt need 2 :p

[shmoopiebear]

If I had a choice of something more versatile it would be this...

http://traditionalfilipinoweapons.com/Images/Sandata%20Large/WarGolok.jpg

But it is not a knife so...

It would probably be firstly my Becker BK7 which I actually own from my inventory. It has enough heft. I could, also, take from my inventory hefty knives such as an Buck Strider Solution ( I would love to see the BG43 tested and put through it's paces! ), Benchmade Bushmaster, or Ek M3 or M5. Even the Cold Steel R1 I have would be good enough. Lots of choices but no favorites. Ultimately,if I had a favorite, it would be something akin to a Busse Battle Mistress.

[338 Stalker]

Just got back from some hunting. Saw this girl sleeping until a tree at about 180m away, took the shot at 150m/20m above. She didn't know what hit her, smashed a good 5" of her spine.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b80/Tez308/AprilSambar-1.jpg

Boned-out one of the back legs with the Scrapper 6. One word, SUPERB. And who said bigger knives cant quarter deer ;) . This S6 would have to be my favorite fixed blade for a chop/survival knife.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b80/Tez308/S6Sambar-1.jpg

Same deal with one of the back-straps, maybe even better http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b80/Tez308/S6Sambar-2.jpg

Gliding down the spine & legs to cut the skin was done with ease & precision. It seems the S6 weight enhanced this. IMO the S6 has belly for caping, point for the nicks, shape to run down legs, back, belly etc, choil to choke up for the finer stuff, thick grippy spine for control cuts under the index finger strokes & a handle that works well with blood soaked hands.

SR-77 HOLDS AN EDGE GREAT, that you can bank on. I hit bone & more so course DIRTY hair. If anything with blunten a blade quicker in my game it's these two things. And one of the reasons why I started my journey into finding the ULTIMATE STEEL & DESIGN :rolleyes:

I also tested the Strider SMF on the other leg, back-strap & eye fillets. More about that later. But I will say, everyone should have either a SnG or SMF at one stage or another.
These Striders with there S30v are truly tools of the trade. I prefer the SMF myself. I traded the Sng for a Spyderco Delica 4. Long story there, but it was with my son. I actually gave him the knife as he has been drooling over it ever since I bought it. But being the little gentleman he is he said "dad I will give you something for it" nah son she's right mate, "no I want too". So we settled on a Delica 4 with VG-10. Not too $$$ for him & a fare trade everything considered. It will be my EDC but will see some Deer country:p

[trib trekker]

I chose the combat grade "Fat" ASH-1 for the very purpose described in the thread head. It's heavy enough to be an efficient chopper, yet barely nimble enough for more intricate cutting. It will also serve well as a sturdy weapon.

[maddogg774]

I've been concidering this for the last 25 years and i still change from time to time. as for survival I would pick the ColdSteel shovel it is tough, lite and very very usefull from chopping to digging, i cook on it like a frying pan. also the CS master tanto original san Mai and the sog fat cat. VG-10!

[culpeper]

338 Stalker:

What did you shoot there and where? Why is your barrel red? What rifle is that? Are we there yet?

Great pictures and write up!

[338 Stalker]

"What did you shoot there and where". Deer, shot about 3 hours from home.
"Why is your barrel red". So the rain & shit doesn't get in whilst stalking.
"What rifle is that". Blaser R93.
"Are we there yet" Yes for the rifles, no on the knives ATM(but very close). I just need to test a few more ;)

Thanks man :)

[culpeper]

Oh BTW, I would settle for the RAT6 based on your scenerio. But I don't have a RAT6. I have a RAT4. So, I would take out my J. Nowill and Sons 8" 1085 hunting knife.

http://www.myculpeper.com/photos/Nowill2.jpg