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Noss
06-05-2008, 05:56 PM
I just received a Busse Basic 9 for a destruction test. Courtesy of Will here on the forum.
Thanks for donating it.

It is made of a modified INFI. A less expensive version of INFI.

here are some photos of it.

Macgregor
06-05-2008, 06:04 PM
Awesome!

Cant wait to see if minfi is a tough as infi and if the asemetrical grind is as tough as they say.

slipfirep40
06-05-2008, 06:04 PM
Awesome!:cool:

will york
06-05-2008, 06:09 PM
I just received a Busse Basic 9 for a destruction test. Courtesy of Will here on the forum. Thanks for donating it.

My pleasure--thanks for your good work. Asymmetrical edge is original from Busse. Scuffing of blade coating is from light chopping/limbing only. Has spent most of its life as a backup to my every-day B9 which rides in my truck.

Have Fun!

will

The Cameraman
06-05-2008, 06:11 PM
what a piece of crap!!! Noss, don't even waste your time with that thing. Instead, I dunno, maybe just.....give it to me :D:D:D AWE, COMEON!!! IT WILL BE MY FIRST BUSSE. IT'S A GOOD CAUSE, NOSS. It was donated...so now, you can donate it......TO ME :D


SOON TO BE THE NEW OWNER OF A FINE SLAB OF INFI, THE CAMERAMAN

eatingmuchface
06-05-2008, 07:53 PM
!!!
I can't wait to see how this INFI stands up to the "regular" INFI.
I have the feeling it won't be quite as impressive, but it should still make for a great test!
:D
these tests are getting better and better noss!

miro44one
06-06-2008, 11:20 AM
Yeah, this will be really interesting..

Sharp
06-06-2008, 01:43 PM
OOH.... this is gonna be good.

It'd be better if you gave it to me. :D

Macgregor
06-08-2008, 03:06 PM
Hey Noss.
Can I call dibbs on a sliver of M-infi when your done with the test.
Just a little piece.:D

Grimspoon
06-12-2008, 06:09 AM
What do you guys think? Will it perform somewhere between SR-77 and INFI? Or will it perform worse than either?

Here's hoping it actually performs as well as INFI, although I suspect that might not be the case...

Noss
06-21-2008, 04:14 PM
Grimspoon: Welcome to the forum.


Will: I'm testing the Basic 9 tonight. :eek: It will be late so I may get arrested for disturbing the peace. :D

will york
06-21-2008, 04:41 PM
Hot ziggity pups!

Can't wait to get your take on performance of the M-INFI steel, the performance of the asymmetrical edge grind, edge durability, and how the blade stacks up at 1/4" thick against the thicker Scrapper 6 and the FFBM beast at 3/10"+. I'm also looking forward to your opinion of how the combination of the angle, blade-to-handle, and the Resiprene C grips on a long-bladed chopper stack up. (The Basic blade spines run at about a 5 degree down angle from the handle, improving chopping power in my experience.)

Good or bad, either way, this test is gonna settle some brain dust for me.

Thanks again Noss,
will

eatingmuchface
06-21-2008, 05:04 PM
yeah, this is gonna be a great test... It may not resist chipping as good under the extreme tests, but i think it will get at LEAST a 5.
:D
will york, thanks for donating it, as it will make for a great test.

will york
06-21-2008, 05:25 PM
emf,

my pleasure.

thanks,
will

Not too bad, man
06-21-2008, 05:42 PM
I'm testing the Basic 9 tonight. :eek:

AWESOME!!!


Thanks Will York! :cool:

Gman1128
06-21-2008, 06:11 PM
Its gonna be a GREAT TEST!!!
Thanks Will, thats really generous of you!

btw, does anyone know how M-INFI differs from regular INFI?

miro44one
06-22-2008, 05:35 AM
Cool, can' t wait for the test

will york
06-22-2008, 11:29 AM
Well, boys, do you think we should call out the Texas Rangers to sort through the carnage and see if there were any survivors of the B9 test? I hate to think of Noss and the effing Cameraman bleeding out on the shop floor with no reinforcements.

1900
06-22-2008, 08:23 PM
"Well, boys, do you think we should call out the Texas Rangers to sort through the carnage and see if there were any survivors of the B9 test? I hate to think of Noss and the effing Cameraman bleeding out on the shop floor with no reinforcements."


ROTFLMBO,and I got a pretty big B!


Thanks for contributing your knife Will York,and thanks for doing all the tests Noss and cameraman!

will york
06-22-2008, 09:20 PM
Worse yet is if the tests are still ongoing...Noss may be in need of long-term cardiopulmonary rehabilitation...

or if the police have taken Noss and the effingCam in for questioning as "persons of interest" in an undercover sting operation, for what they've witnessed first-hand in these highly controversial incidents of sacrificial destruction ...

Noss
06-22-2008, 11:02 PM
It's done. The basic 9 performed very well. It was not as tough as the scrapper 6 an the FFBM but it out did every other blade in the knife category. To bad they are no longer being made. :(

Bkultra
06-22-2008, 11:21 PM
It's done. The basic 9 performed very well. It was not as tough as the scrapper 6 an the FFBM but it out did every other blade in the knife category. To bad they are no longer being made. :(

The idea of the basic series lives on in Swamp Rats & Scrap Yards

Noss
06-23-2008, 12:23 AM
Bkultra: Welcome to the forum. I haven't tested a Swamp Rat Yet. I have one waiting for me though. A new CW D-tempered. The Basic 9 is a great cutter an chopper.
The asymmetrical edge takes some nice deep bites in the wood. It's very functional, tough an strong.

will york
06-23-2008, 09:54 AM
The Basic 9 is a great cutter an chopper. The asymmetrical edge takes some nice deep bites in the wood. It's very functional, tough an strong.

Can't wait to see the vids. Thanks again, Noss, for your valuable work.

Noss
06-23-2008, 04:58 PM
Thanks Will. I'm working on the Bayonet videos then I'll get to the Basic videos. I'm guessing about another 5 days or so. It takes me some time to get them ready for the net.

will york
06-23-2008, 05:15 PM
Hey, no problem--I'm just glad it's a done deal and that the vids are in the pipeline for publication. After all, a man's gotta make time for work so he can support his vices, and from the looks of your workbench I can see at least one of your vices requires major support.

Noss
06-23-2008, 05:27 PM
LOL Yeah. I still need to repair my work bench from the Busse FFBM test. :eek: That work bench is about 50 years old an the vice is older. I just hope I never break it testing knives. I would hate to have to look for a replacement. That thing has taking a beating over the years that I doubt many new ones could endure. It use to be used to hold parts
in a big mechanical forge. They welded the the swivel base all the way around so it would not come loose during all the impact for the forge.

will york
06-23-2008, 05:38 PM
If it's as solid as the welds on that 2" pipe frame you use to kill off "survivors", I doubt that vice is going anywhere. I'm glad I sent that B9 to you instead of wrecking my own bench chopping up steel and concrete on it. Best advice: Don't try this at home, children...

Noss
06-23-2008, 06:20 PM
I need to get the junk man out here to haul off a huge pile of testing materials. The vice is a tough one. I'm glad I could save you from having to buy a new vice an workbench. :D

Th knife did well. You should be pleased when you see the videos.

will york
06-23-2008, 07:16 PM
The knife did well. You should be pleased when you see the videos.


Thanks, Noss--I'm looking forward to it.

eatingmuchface
06-23-2008, 07:46 PM
wow!
I'm realy looking forward to it now!

I'd like to see a swamprat tested... I think they'd perorm similar to the ranger, only maybe more flexible because of the diff. HT.

itxploded
06-24-2008, 12:57 AM
lookin forward to this one!!!!!

Noss
06-27-2008, 03:32 AM
Update on the basic 9 test. I was looking at the video. An when I did the side tang impacts. I noticed I did not place the knife back in the same position when I removed it from the vice to show the bend it took. I moved it higher in the vice the second go around. and I broke the blade handle off during the second round.

I just went out an re tried the test in the first position an I could not break it. I screw up.It would have survived this test. So it will be declared a survivor an get a 6 sword rating. I video taped this second go around an it will be added after the video. This was a mistake on my part and not the knives fault.

I wish I could have tried it on the tubing but I no longer have a knife to do this. :(


Sorry for the mistake. I'm mad at myself for this. :mad:

Izan
06-27-2008, 03:49 AM
It's OK, I am sure other masked cult leaders make mistakes too.

will york
06-27-2008, 09:54 AM
I'm impressed you discovered the mistake and were able to go back and establish the knife would have survived. I've seen you do this kind of thing over and over again in your tests to try and be as fair as possible to the knife. You take the responsibility to do everything in your power to question your own methods, to try and make your demonstrations as honest and straightforward as they can be. I don't see how anyone could impugn your integrity after seeing the proof of that in your videos, and this is a great example.

Just a thought--is there any way to rig some kind of way to hold the remaining knife edge against the pipe to complete the comparison with the FFBM and Scrapper 6? Either by heavily wrapping an end of the remaining blade length with tape and using a thick protective glove--maybe blunt the edge of that end with a hammer before wrapping it? Or possibly rigging some kind of jig to hold the remaining length of blade level while the edge rests on the pipe, so it could be struck with the mallet?

I'm wondering if there might be an opportunity here to figure out how to do this for future tests, when one part of a knife fails but there are still questions that might be answered if a way could be found to secure a length of blade for testing. Especially in the case of a long-bladed knife like the B9.

Hey, thanks pard--for all you do.

will

Noss
06-27-2008, 10:40 AM
Thanks Will. I'll see what I can do to secure the remaining portion of the blade for the tubing test. I'll have to make a holder of some type since vice grips won't hold it secure enough during all the impact. I'll get working on it an see what I can do here.

Thecarotidpulse
06-27-2008, 10:50 AM
Why not take a broken/partial tang and weld it?

Heck, take 2 and weld the 2 together on either side of the blade. Or screws or whatever...

will york
06-27-2008, 11:06 AM
Welding would probably compromise the heat treat. If you had a hard enough drill bit, you might be able to drill two holes in one end while keeping the blade cool with water, and then bolt it securely to a makeshift handle.

...but hey, who's the knife testing guru here?

I'm betting Noss comes up with the best solution, if one can be found.

Noss
06-27-2008, 11:27 AM
I just got back in from the shop. The simple solution was to make it into a short knife. I wrapped some tape around the rear portion of the blade. Then hammered it into the tubing. halfway through the tubing I broke 2 small sections of the blade edge out but I was able to shear the tubing in half. I video taped it of course. :)

will york
06-27-2008, 01:32 PM
...he shoots...he scores! Clutch play, Noss--that's very cool.

Thanks bro' --

will

eatingmuchface
06-27-2008, 01:39 PM
wow!
went back and did it again?!
hold crap.
thats awesome.

I really can't wait now!
:D

Noss
06-28-2008, 03:50 AM
I'm working on the videos. I should have it online in a few days.

Noss
06-30-2008, 08:25 PM
I'm getting close. It should be online tomorrow morning. :)

Thecarotidpulse
06-30-2008, 08:26 PM
God damnit... I'm covering Canada Day tomorrow morning :(

I dont think the Federal Gov will let me go on break for an hour to watch d tests...

eatingmuchface
06-30-2008, 09:04 PM
lol
you a news reporter or something like that?

Noss
06-30-2008, 10:07 PM
Live at 6:00am. Eyewitness Knife Tests.com news will bring you the story of the Busse Basic 9. Also a deadly storm is moving into the area, our cameraman will have the latest video on this monster storm system. :D

will york
06-30-2008, 10:41 PM
Noss,

Thanks for that post--now I won't have to stay up all night hitting the refresh button...

338 Stalker
06-30-2008, 10:45 PM
Yeah I'm champing at the bit also :cool:

Noss
06-30-2008, 11:00 PM
Will: It's safe to go to bed it will be morning before I get it online. I'll be working all night on it. It is being rendered now. Then I have to upload it to You Tube an create the page an other stuff. I estimate
between 6:00 an 8:00am

Thecarotidpulse
06-30-2008, 11:56 PM
>:-( 8 am? I have to leave at 4 am (in 4 hours lol)

EMF, not news reporter. Paramedic.

Noss: I checked, no current Storm warnings in effect... however

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MIDLAND HAS ISSUED A

* FLOOD WARNING FOR
THE RIO GRANDE BELOW PRESIDIO 5SE.
* UNTIL TUESDAY AFTERNOON...OR UNTIL THE WARNING IS CANCELLED.
* AT 9PM MONDAY THE STAGE WAS 8.2 FEET (2.5 METERS).
* MINOR FLOODING IS FORECAST.
* FLOOD STAGE IS 9.0 FEET (2.7 METERS).
* FORECAST...RISE ABOVE FLOOD STAGE BY AFTER MIDNIGHT TOMORROW AND
CONTINUE TO RISE TO NEAR 9.1 FEET (2.8 METERS) BY AFTER MIDNIGHT
TOMORROW. THE RIVER WILL FALL BELOW FLOOD STAGE BY AFTER MIDNIGHT
TOMORROW.
* IMPACT...AT 9.0 FEET (2.7 METERS)...MINOR FLOODING OF LOW LYING
AREAS AROUND THE RIVER BEGINS.


:P